great prices!
G.Villarini wrote:
$100 for a 900 antenna? Yikes man were are buying? I buy 11 db yagis for
around $40 , 15 db for $60 and 17db for $80
Gino A. Villarini,
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.aeronetpr.com
787.767.7466
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Behalf Of A. Huppenthal
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 6:22 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
we're talking 900 mhz, right? I don't use Moto 2.4 or 900 mhz stuff.
never tried 2.4 and the 900 mhz didn't work for me - but it was a press.
some 15 miles with NLOS so.. it could have been a path too challanging
even for 900 mhz.
$295 for a 900 mhz radios is very good. You still have to add $100 for a
900 mhz antenna. I've stayed away from 900 mhz mostly because of the
learning curve and additional spectrum/antenna considerations. They are
much bigger of course than 5.7 or 5.7 antennas/reflectors for the same
gain, but that's obvious.
Still $260 for 5.7 ghz radio with spectrum analyzer built-in, audio tone
alignment, weights a few ounces, goes a few megabits / second, supports
vlan tagging, dhcp / nat / shoulder-spectrums / has snmp / is supported
by a network mass-firmware upgrade program (yes, its really crap, but at
least its *there*). I could easily do remote upgrades of 30 units at a
time without headache to move to new featured firmware - live, online,
no crap-outs...
Like I said, it isn't for everyone, that's for sure. It just was for me.
Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
I've never done business with them either, but their 100 pack prices
is 295 each for connectorized. Cheaper then some "roll your own".
A. Huppenthal wrote:
I'm not a supplier, nor do I want to be one to the list, nor do I
want to research on behalf of the list.
google:
motorola canopy SM bulk 100 pack.
I picked the first couple of hits that showed prices.. That's it.
I don't do business with Double Radius, so I wouldn't know.
Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-50
$26,250
Double Radius has 25 pack for : $8,500.00 double to 50 pack and it 17k
Will you please tell me who the Canopy major supplier is so I can
avoid at all costs.
The 100 pack is THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS cheaper at double radius.
HOLY CRAP!
Unless I am reading something wrong.......
http://www.doubleradius.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.81/.f
A. Huppenthal wrote:
I think WISPA has expressed its disinterest in a 'buying club'.
However, if members on this list want to organize a 'buying club' -
I'm all for it. Its clearly one of the reasons you will get your
ass kicked by the telco and cable company - they have buying power
and can get what you want and buy in 10s and 20s for 1/2 the price.
Next to FCC, my biggest concern is that my *COSTS* are higher than
Telco and Cable. Aside from the totally defunct Anti-trust activity
of our government, *COSTS* are going to kill WISPs off. Hardware is
a part of that overall model. The rest of the costs are contained
in my business.. and I'm happy to talk about that with other WISPs
at the *first* WISPA meeting. In fact, I'd likely talk about it at
ISPCON as well. (would be my third talk there). Our industry really
needs to pull together to achieve higher efficiencies (how to run a
WISP), better pricing (buying power), improved governmental rules
(FCC and others through a louder voice).
I don't specifically reccomend any of this equipment. Get some and
figure out if it works for you on your own dime. :-)
Want a relevent example: a single 900 Mhz Subscriber Unit = $725.
Buy 500 and get them at $444 instead.
Here's an off-the-shelf price list from a Canopy major supplier.
432679 900 Mhz Access Point 9000AP $1,895
427612 900 Mhz Access Point AES 9001AP $2,395
498606 900 Mhz Access Point Connectorized (External antenna)
9000APC $1,855
487642 900 Mhz Access Point AES Connectorized (External
antenna) 9001APC $2,355
432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-50
$26,250
452650 Bulk Pack 100 900 MHz Subscriber Modules
BP9000SM-100 $47,500
459676 Bulk Pack 500 900 MHz Subscriber Modules
BP9000SM-500 $222,500
460660 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized
BP9000SMC-50 $24,250
467696 Bulk Pack 100 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized
BP9000SMC-100 $43,500
483635 Bulk Pack 500 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized
BP9000SMC-500 $202,500
433674 900 Mhz Subscriber Module 9000SM $725
430697 900 Mhz Subscriber Module AES 9001SM $975
499667 900 Mhz Subscriber Module Connectorized (External
antenna) 9000SMC $685
472614 900 Mhz Subscriber Module AES Connectorized (External
antenna) 9001SMC $935
435698 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna
AN900
$100
446693 Bulk Pack 50: 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna
BPAN900-50
$4,500
413627 Bulk Pack 100: 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna
BPAN900-100 $8,000
483655 900MHz Demo Kit - Connectorized TK10010
$3,000
495685 900MHz Access Point Cluster Kit - Connectorized
TK10028
$30,000
Peter R. wrote:
Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
Would he give WISPA a good rate? Anyone interested could get
quotes and maybe he could cut us a break? I want this trade
association to get some members services so people have a reason
to join. With added services comes members and money. With
members and money comes "pull" at the FCC level. Then we get
good stuff from the FCC and WISPs rule the world. *Right Brain*
Lets do what we can to get more Principal Members.
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up
eating the organization and the organization becomes caught up in
being a volume club.
Regards,
Peter
4isps.com
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