They don't even have 150 customers in some markets! Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment Gino, They may need that many to test the full throughput capabilities. So what are the details of what they are doing? jack Gino A. Villarini wrote: > Do you really think towerstream need 150 field units or cpes to "test" a > single base station? > > Gino A. Villarini > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Jack Unger > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:07 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment > > Gino, > > Is Towerstream doing this - using 3650 to deliver commercial service? > > jack > > > Gino A. Villarini wrote: > > >>Towerstream anyone ? >> >>Gino A. Villarini >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>Behalf Of Jack Unger >>Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 6:56 PM >>To: WISPA General List >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment >> >>Jeffrey, >> >>I have to question the "judgement ability" (or the lack of it) of anyone >>who abuses the FCC rules to the extent of taking a licensed >>"experimental" system and using it for a commercial, revenue-generating >>purpose. Someone who would do this is (IMHO): >> >>1. Someone with no business sense >>2. Someone with no appreciation of (or experience with) the enforcement >>powers of the FCC >>3. Someone who will likely turn out to be their own worst enemy >>4. NOT someone who I could rely upon to provide me reliable, long-term >>WISP service. >> jack >> >> >> >>jeffrey thomas wrote: >> >> >> >>>Patrick, >>> >>>It doesnt change the fact that many have launched "limited" deployments >>>as a "test" but still charged for the access service, banking on the >>>fact that the FCC has set the band aside for unlicensed anyways, and >>>that the chance of the FCC cracking down on them is very low. >>> >>>Im not saying this is right, but reality is such that they will be >>>evenutally amending the rules and the gear according to my sources that >>>is available today will be compliant. *shrug* >>> >>>- >>> >>>Jeff >>> >>>On Tue, 23 May 2006 12:37:11 -0700, "Patrick Leary" >>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Exactly, it clearly shows that an operator today CANNOT launch any >>>>commercial services using 3650MHz. >>>> >>>>- Patrick >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Charles Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:40 AM >>>>To: 'WISPA General List' >>>>Subject: RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment >>>> >>>>Read below and you can decide on whether or not you will be "breaking the >>>>law" w/ a 3650 deployment >>>> >>>> >>>>--------------------------- >>>>To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>Cc: <isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 6:32 AM >>>>Subject: [equipment-l] Experimental Licensing in the 3650 MHz Band - >>>>Clarifications >>>> >>>> >>>>Recently, there have been some misleading advertisements promising >>>>turn-key >>>>3.65 GHz licensing services as a means of avoiding interference in >>>>congested >>>>license-exempt ISM/UNII bands. Although the FCC issued adopted rules >>>>back >>>>in March 2005 to open access to new spectrum for wireless broadband in >>>>the >>>>3.65 GHz band, a "minor" contention-based requirement has delayed the >>>>deployment of wireless broadband services in this band as equipment >>>>manufacturers currently work behind the scenes to iron out the details. >>>>As >>>>things currently stand, deploying a 3.65 GHz system today falls under >>>>Subpart 5: Experimental Radio Service of the FCC Rules. >>>> >>>>Infrastructure Investment & Experimentation under Part 5 needs to be done >>>>strictly from a "curiosity" perspective rather than one of "commercial >>>>network expansion." Part 5 permits experimentation in scientific or >>>>technical operations directly related to the use of radio waves. The >>>>rules >>>>provide the opportunity to experiment with new techniques or new services >>>>prior to submitting proposals to the FCC to change its rules. >>>> >>>>Some useful excerpts regarding Experimental Licensing >>>> >>>>47CFR5.3: Scope of Service >>>> >>>>Stations operating in the Experimental Radio Service will be permitted to >>>>conduct the following type of operations: >>>>(a) Experimentations in scientific or technical radio research >>>>(b) Experimentations under contractual agreement with the United States >>>>Government, or for export purposes. >>>>(c) Communications essential to a research project. >>>>(d) Technical demonstrations of equipment or techniques. >>>>(e) Field strength surveys by persons not eligible for authorization >>>>in >>>>any other service. >>>>(f) Demonstration of equipment to prospective purchasers by persons >>>>engaged in the business of selling radio equipment. >>>>(g) Testing of equipment in connection with production or regulatory >>>>approval of such equipment. >>>>(h) Development of radio technique, equipment or engineering data not >>>>related to an existing or proposed service, including field or factory >>>>testing or calibration of equipment. >>>>(i) Development of radio technique, equipment, operational data or >>>>engineering data related to an existing or proposed radio service. >>>>(j) Limited market studies. >>>>(k) Types of experiments that are not specifically covered under >>>>paragraphs (a) through (j) of this section will be considered upon >>>>demonstration of need >>>> >>>>47CFR5.51: Eligibility of License >>>> >>>>(a) Authorizations for stations in the Experimental Radio Service will >>>>be >>>>issued only to persons qualified to conduct experimentation utilizing >>>>radio >>>>waves for scientific or technical operation data directly related to a >>>>use >>>>of radio not provided by existing rules; or for communications in >>>>connection >>>>with research projects when existing communications facilities are >>>>inadequate. >>>> >>>>47CFR5.63: Supplementary Statements >>>> >>>>(a) Each applicant for an authorization in the Experimental Radio >>>>Service >>>>must enclose with the application a narrative statement describing in >>>>detail >>>>the program of research and experimentation proposed, the specific >>>>objectives sought to be accomplished; and how the program of >>>>experimentation >>>>has a reasonable promise of contribution to the development, extension, >>>>or >>>>expansion, or utilization of the radio art, or is along lines not already >>>>investigated. >>>> >>>>For further information regarding experimental licensing, the FCC has a >>>>nice >>>>online FAQ that gives a step-by-step how-to on experimental licensing: >>>>http://www.fcc.gov/oet/faqs/elbfaqs.html >>>> >>>> >>>>------------------------------------------- >>>>CWLab >>>>Technology Architects >>>>http://www.cwlab.com >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>************************************************************************ * > > * > >>** >> >> >>>>******** >>>>This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >>>>PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >>>>computer >>>>viruses. >>>>************************************************************************ * > > * > >>** >> >> >>>>******** >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>************************************************************************ * > > * > >>** >> >> >>>>******** >>>>This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >>>>PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >>>>computer >>>>viruses. >>>>************************************************************************ * > > * > >>** >> >> >>>>******** >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. 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