How do you figure?
You don't think 5.4 is going to solve part of that?
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment
Frankly,
The FCC should really hurry up and finish the rules to allow the industry
to
really take off. The common view with most manufacturers I have found is
that until there is 3.5ghz or near spectrum available, there will be small
and limited deployments of wisp size and not many large scale deployments
outside of 2.5ghz or 700 mhz operators.
-
Jeff
On 5/24/06 6:14 AM, "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
All the same time, the industry doesn't bother to fill out their Form
477s
also
The sad thing is is that there are long term consequences towards
"flaunting
the rules" -- namely the fact that you are just reinforcing the ILEC
argument that unlicensed spectrum just creates a bunch of "cowboys" that
can't be taken seriously
Heck, even Marlon knows better than to wear his skin-tight pink flamingo
suit when he represents the industry in DC
-Charles
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of jeffrey thomas
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment
In the larger scale of things- when you compare this to a carrier
deployment
which would deliver thousands of CPE's service, this is a test. I know of
one company that has recieved 28 STA's for 14 markets, for over 2000 CPE.
-
Jeff
On Tue, 23 May 2006 21:33:33 -0400, "Gino A. Villarini"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
Do you really think towerstream need 150 field units or cpes to "test"
a single base station?
Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:07 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment
Gino,
Is Towerstream doing this - using 3650 to deliver commercial service?
jack
Gino A. Villarini wrote:
Towerstream anyone ?
Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 6:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment
Jeffrey,
I have to question the "judgement ability" (or the lack of it) of
anyone
who abuses the FCC rules to the extent of taking a licensed
"experimental" system and using it for a commercial, revenue-generating
purpose. Someone who would do this is (IMHO):
1. Someone with no business sense
2. Someone with no appreciation of (or experience with) the
enforcement
powers of the FCC
3. Someone who will likely turn out to be their own worst enemy
4. NOT someone who I could rely upon to provide me reliable, long-term
WISP service.
jack
jeffrey thomas wrote:
Patrick,
It doesnt change the fact that many have launched "limited"
deployments as a "test" but still charged for the access service,
banking on the fact that the FCC has set the band aside for
unlicensed anyways, and that the chance of the FCC cracking down on
them is very low.
Im not saying this is right, but reality is such that they will be
evenutally amending the rules and the gear according to my sources
that is available today will be compliant. *shrug*
-
Jeff
On Tue, 23 May 2006 12:37:11 -0700, "Patrick Leary"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
Exactly, it clearly shows that an operator today CANNOT launch any
commercial services using 3650MHz.
- Patrick
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:40 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment
Read below and you can decide on whether or not you will be
"breaking the law" w/ a 3650 deployment
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To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 6:32 AM
Subject: [equipment-l] Experimental Licensing in the 3650 MHz Band -
Clarifications
Recently, there have been some misleading advertisements promising
turn-key 3.65 GHz licensing services as a means of avoiding
interference in congested
license-exempt ISM/UNII bands. Although the FCC issued adopted rules
back
in March 2005 to open access to new spectrum for wireless broadband
in
the
3.65 GHz band, a "minor" contention-based requirement has delayed the
deployment of wireless broadband services in this band as equipment
manufacturers currently work behind the scenes to iron out the
details.
As
things currently stand, deploying a 3.65 GHz system today falls under
Subpart 5: Experimental Radio Service of the FCC Rules.
Infrastructure Investment & Experimentation under Part 5 needs to
be done strictly from a "curiosity" perspective rather than one of
"commercial network expansion." Part 5 permits experimentation in
scientific or technical operations directly related to the use of
radio waves. The rules provide the opportunity to experiment with
new techniques or new services prior to submitting proposals to the
FCC to change its rules.
Some useful excerpts regarding Experimental Licensing
47CFR5.3: Scope of Service
Stations operating in the Experimental Radio Service will be
permitted to conduct the following type of operations:
(a) Experimentations in scientific or technical radio research
(b) Experimentations under contractual agreement with the United
States
Government, or for export purposes.
(c) Communications essential to a research project.
(d) Technical demonstrations of equipment or techniques.
(e) Field strength surveys by persons not eligible for
authorization
in
any other service.
(f) Demonstration of equipment to prospective purchasers by
persons
engaged in the business of selling radio equipment.
(g) Testing of equipment in connection with production or
regulatory
approval of such equipment.
(h) Development of radio technique, equipment or engineering data
not
related to an existing or proposed service, including field or
factory testing or calibration of equipment.
(i) Development of radio technique, equipment, operational data
or
engineering data related to an existing or proposed radio service.
(j) Limited market studies.
(k) Types of experiments that are not specifically covered under
paragraphs (a) through (j) of this section will be considered upon
demonstration of need
47CFR5.51: Eligibility of License
(a) Authorizations for stations in the Experimental Radio Service
will
be
issued only to persons qualified to conduct experimentation
utilizing radio waves for scientific or technical operation data
directly related to a use
of radio not provided by existing rules; or for communications in
connection
with research projects when existing communications facilities are
inadequate.
47CFR5.63: Supplementary Statements
(a) Each applicant for an authorization in the Experimental Radio
Service
must enclose with the application a narrative statement describing
in detail the program of research and experimentation proposed, the
specific objectives sought to be accomplished; and how the program
of experimentation
has a reasonable promise of contribution to the development,
extension,
or
expansion, or utilization of the radio art, or is along lines not
already
investigated.
For further information regarding experimental licensing, the FCC
has a nice online FAQ that gives a step-by-step how-to on
experimental licensing: http://www.fcc.gov/oet/faqs/elbfaqs.html
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