Wow, I think I heard a bell ring somewhere.

-
Jeff

On Tue, 23 May 2006 20:58:32 -0400, "Gino A. Villarini"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Towerstream anyone ?
> 
> Gino A. Villarini
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Jack Unger
> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 6:56 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment
> 
> Jeffrey,
> 
> I have to question the "judgement ability" (or the lack of it) of anyone 
> who abuses the FCC rules to the extent of taking a licensed 
> "experimental" system and using it for a commercial, revenue-generating 
> purpose. Someone who would do this is (IMHO):
> 
> 1. Someone with no business sense
> 2. Someone with no appreciation of (or experience with) the enforcement 
> powers of the FCC
> 3. Someone who will likely turn out to be their own worst enemy
> 4. NOT someone who I could rely upon to provide me reliable, long-term 
> WISP service.
>                jack
> 
> 
> 
> jeffrey thomas wrote:
> 
> > Patrick,
> > 
> > It doesnt change the fact that many have launched "limited" deployments
> > as a "test" but still charged for the access service, banking on the
> > fact that the FCC has set the band aside for unlicensed anyways, and
> > that the chance of the FCC cracking down on them is very low. 
> > 
> > Im not saying this is right, but reality is such that they will be
> > evenutally amending the rules and the gear according to my sources that
> > is available today will be compliant. *shrug*
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > Jeff
> > 
> > On Tue, 23 May 2006 12:37:11 -0700, "Patrick Leary"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > 
> >>Exactly, it clearly shows that an operator today CANNOT launch any
> >>commercial services using 3650MHz.
> >>
> >>- Patrick
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Charles Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >>Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:40 AM
> >>To: 'WISPA General List'
> >>Subject: RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment
> >>
> >>Read below and you can decide on whether or not you will be "breaking the
> >>law" w/ a 3650 deployment
> >>
> >>
> >>---------------------------
> >>To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
> >>Cc: <isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 6:32 AM
> >>Subject: [equipment-l] Experimental Licensing in the 3650 MHz Band - 
> >>Clarifications
> >>
> >>
> >>Recently, there have been some misleading advertisements promising
> >>turn-key
> >>3.65 GHz licensing services as a means of avoiding interference in
> >>congested
> >>license-exempt ISM/UNII bands.  Although the FCC issued adopted rules
> >>back
> >>in March 2005 to open access to new spectrum for wireless broadband in
> >>the
> >>3.65 GHz band, a "minor" contention-based requirement has delayed the
> >>deployment of wireless broadband services in this band as equipment
> >>manufacturers currently work behind the scenes to iron out the details. 
> >>As
> >>things currently stand, deploying a 3.65 GHz system today falls under
> >>Subpart 5: Experimental Radio Service of the FCC Rules.
> >>
> >>Infrastructure Investment & Experimentation under Part 5 needs to be done
> >>strictly from a "curiosity" perspective rather than one of "commercial
> >>network expansion."  Part 5 permits experimentation in scientific or
> >>technical operations directly related to the use of radio waves. The
> >>rules
> >>provide the opportunity to experiment with new techniques or new services
> >>prior to submitting proposals to the FCC to change its rules.
> >>
> >>Some useful excerpts regarding Experimental Licensing
> >>
> >>47CFR5.3: Scope of Service
> >>
> >>Stations operating in the Experimental Radio Service will be permitted to
> >>conduct the following type of operations:
> >>(a)    Experimentations in scientific or technical radio research
> >>(b)   Experimentations under contractual agreement with the United States
> >>Government, or for export purposes.
> >>(c)    Communications essential to a research project.
> >>(d)   Technical demonstrations of equipment or techniques.
> >>(e)    Field strength surveys by persons not eligible for authorization
> >>in
> >>any other service.
> >>(f)     Demonstration of equipment to prospective purchasers by persons
> >>engaged in the business of selling radio equipment.
> >>(g)    Testing of equipment in connection with production or regulatory
> >>approval of such equipment.
> >>(h)    Development of radio technique, equipment or engineering data not
> >>related to an existing or proposed service, including field or factory
> >>testing or calibration of equipment.
> >>(i)      Development of radio technique, equipment, operational data or
> >>engineering data related to an existing or proposed radio service.
> >>(j)     Limited market studies.
> >>(k)   Types of experiments that are not specifically covered under
> >>paragraphs (a) through (j) of this section will be considered upon
> >>demonstration of need
> >>
> >>47CFR5.51: Eligibility of License
> >>
> >>(a)    Authorizations for stations in the Experimental Radio Service will
> >>be
> >>issued only to persons qualified to conduct experimentation utilizing
> >>radio
> >>waves for scientific or technical operation data directly related to a
> >>use
> >>of radio not provided by existing rules; or for communications in
> >>connection
> >>with research projects when existing communications facilities are
> >>inadequate.
> >>
> >>47CFR5.63: Supplementary Statements
> >>
> >>(a)    Each applicant for an authorization in the Experimental Radio
> >>Service
> >>must enclose with the application a narrative statement describing in
> >>detail
> >>the program of research and experimentation proposed, the specific
> >>objectives sought to be accomplished; and how the program of
> >>experimentation
> >>has a reasonable promise of contribution to the development, extension,
> >>or
> >>expansion, or utilization of the radio art, or is along lines not already
> >>investigated.
> >>
> >>For further information regarding experimental licensing, the FCC has a
> >>nice
> >>online FAQ that gives a step-by-step how-to on experimental licensing:
> >>http://www.fcc.gov/oet/faqs/elbfaqs.html
> >>
> >>
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