All the same time, the industry doesn't bother to fill out their Form 477s also
The sad thing is is that there are long term consequences towards "flaunting the rules" -- namely the fact that you are just reinforcing the ILEC argument that unlicensed spectrum just creates a bunch of "cowboys" that can't be taken seriously Heck, even Marlon knows better than to wear his skin-tight pink flamingo suit when he represents the industry in DC -Charles ------------------------------------------- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jeffrey thomas Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment In the larger scale of things- when you compare this to a carrier deployment which would deliver thousands of CPE's service, this is a test. I know of one company that has recieved 28 STA's for 14 markets, for over 2000 CPE. - Jeff On Tue, 23 May 2006 21:33:33 -0400, "Gino A. Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Do you really think towerstream need 150 field units or cpes to "test" > a single base station? > > Gino A. Villarini > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Jack Unger > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:07 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment > > Gino, > > Is Towerstream doing this - using 3650 to deliver commercial service? > > jack > > > Gino A. Villarini wrote: > > > Towerstream anyone ? > > > > Gino A. Villarini > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > > tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Jack Unger > > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 6:56 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment > > > > Jeffrey, > > > > I have to question the "judgement ability" (or the lack of it) of > > anyone > > who abuses the FCC rules to the extent of taking a licensed > > "experimental" system and using it for a commercial, revenue-generating > > purpose. Someone who would do this is (IMHO): > > > > 1. Someone with no business sense > > 2. Someone with no appreciation of (or experience with) the > > enforcement > > powers of the FCC > > 3. Someone who will likely turn out to be their own worst enemy > > 4. NOT someone who I could rely upon to provide me reliable, long-term > > WISP service. > > jack > > > > > > > > jeffrey thomas wrote: > > > > > >>Patrick, > >> > >>It doesnt change the fact that many have launched "limited" > >>deployments as a "test" but still charged for the access service, > >>banking on the fact that the FCC has set the band aside for > >>unlicensed anyways, and that the chance of the FCC cracking down on > >>them is very low. > >> > >>Im not saying this is right, but reality is such that they will be > >>evenutally amending the rules and the gear according to my sources > >>that is available today will be compliant. *shrug* > >> > >>- > >> > >>Jeff > >> > >>On Tue, 23 May 2006 12:37:11 -0700, "Patrick Leary" > >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> > >> > >>>Exactly, it clearly shows that an operator today CANNOT launch any > >>>commercial services using 3650MHz. > >>> > >>>- Patrick > >>> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: Charles Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:40 AM > >>>To: 'WISPA General List' > >>>Subject: RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment > >>> > >>>Read below and you can decide on whether or not you will be > >>>"breaking the law" w/ a 3650 deployment > >>> > >>> > >>>--------------------------- > >>>To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]> > >>>Cc: <[email protected]>; > >>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 6:32 AM > >>>Subject: [equipment-l] Experimental Licensing in the 3650 MHz Band - > >>>Clarifications > >>> > >>> > >>>Recently, there have been some misleading advertisements promising > >>>turn-key 3.65 GHz licensing services as a means of avoiding > >>>interference in congested > >>>license-exempt ISM/UNII bands. Although the FCC issued adopted rules > >>>back > >>>in March 2005 to open access to new spectrum for wireless broadband in > >>>the > >>>3.65 GHz band, a "minor" contention-based requirement has delayed the > >>>deployment of wireless broadband services in this band as equipment > >>>manufacturers currently work behind the scenes to iron out the details. > >>>As > >>>things currently stand, deploying a 3.65 GHz system today falls under > >>>Subpart 5: Experimental Radio Service of the FCC Rules. > >>> > >>>Infrastructure Investment & Experimentation under Part 5 needs to > >>>be done strictly from a "curiosity" perspective rather than one of > >>>"commercial network expansion." Part 5 permits experimentation in > >>>scientific or technical operations directly related to the use of > >>>radio waves. The rules provide the opportunity to experiment with > >>>new techniques or new services prior to submitting proposals to the > >>>FCC to change its rules. > >>> > >>>Some useful excerpts regarding Experimental Licensing > >>> > >>>47CFR5.3: Scope of Service > >>> > >>>Stations operating in the Experimental Radio Service will be > >>>permitted to conduct the following type of operations: > >>>(a) Experimentations in scientific or technical radio research > >>>(b) Experimentations under contractual agreement with the United States > >>>Government, or for export purposes. > >>>(c) Communications essential to a research project. > >>>(d) Technical demonstrations of equipment or techniques. > >>>(e) Field strength surveys by persons not eligible for authorization > >>>in > >>>any other service. > >>>(f) Demonstration of equipment to prospective purchasers by persons > >>>engaged in the business of selling radio equipment. > >>>(g) Testing of equipment in connection with production or regulatory > >>>approval of such equipment. > >>>(h) Development of radio technique, equipment or engineering data not > >>>related to an existing or proposed service, including field or > >>>factory testing or calibration of equipment. > >>>(i) Development of radio technique, equipment, operational data or > >>>engineering data related to an existing or proposed radio service. > >>>(j) Limited market studies. > >>>(k) Types of experiments that are not specifically covered under > >>>paragraphs (a) through (j) of this section will be considered upon > >>>demonstration of need > >>> > >>>47CFR5.51: Eligibility of License > >>> > >>>(a) Authorizations for stations in the Experimental Radio Service will > >>>be > >>>issued only to persons qualified to conduct experimentation > >>>utilizing radio waves for scientific or technical operation data > >>>directly related to a use > >>>of radio not provided by existing rules; or for communications in > >>>connection > >>>with research projects when existing communications facilities are > >>>inadequate. > >>> > >>>47CFR5.63: Supplementary Statements > >>> > >>>(a) Each applicant for an authorization in the Experimental Radio > >>>Service > >>>must enclose with the application a narrative statement describing > >>>in detail the program of research and experimentation proposed, the > >>>specific objectives sought to be accomplished; and how the program > >>>of experimentation > >>>has a reasonable promise of contribution to the development, extension, > >>>or > >>>expansion, or utilization of the radio art, or is along lines not already > >>>investigated. > >>> > >>>For further information regarding experimental licensing, the FCC > >>>has a nice online FAQ that gives a step-by-step how-to on > >>>experimental licensing: http://www.fcc.gov/oet/faqs/elbfaqs.html > >>> > >>> > >>>------------------------------------------- > >>>CWLab > >>>Technology Architects > >>>http://www.cwlab.com > >>> > >>> > >>>-- > >>>WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > >>> > >>>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>> > >>>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>******************************************************************* > >>>****** > * > > > > ** > > > >>>******** > >>>This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > >>>PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & > >>>computer viruses. > >>>************************************************************************* > * > > > > ** > > > >>>******** > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>******************************************************************* > >>>****** > * > > > > ** > > > >>>******** > >>>This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > >>>PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & > >>>computer viruses. > >>>************************************************************************* > * > > > > ** > > > >>>******** > >>> > >>> > >>>-- > >>>WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > >>> > >>>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>> > >>>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > -- > Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. > Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since 1993 > Author of the WISP Handbook - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" > True Vendor-Neutral WISP Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting > Our next WISP Workshop is June 21-22 in Atlanta, GA. > Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com > > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
