Brad,

I got an idea! How about Trango Fix ARQ for the 5830-EXT, so it can be like old times, and we can sit and brag on the list how great our networks are?

One of the reasons StarOS is becoming such an exciting platform. StarOS can be used as a multi-freq, Multi-polarity on the fly product. I will say that Alvarions choice to not make Dual Freq radios, has allowed them to deliver the highest gain from a radio with good clean filtering of the spectrum range. But nobody has a good excuse for not offering Dual Polarity, there just isn't a negative to it.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Belton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 1:42 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL Fixes Problems with Backhaul Links


Agreed that Trango has clearly fallen behind...way behind.  However, the VL
is also far from being an "end all" solution.  The VL has no mechanism to
avoid interference (No RX threshold etc.) other than just to retransmit.

Also, the VL does not offer the flexibility to change polarities on the fly.
In fact Alvarion doesn't even offer an H Polarity SU INT and if you rotate
the V Polarity SU to H you'll likely have a water penetration problem.

The VL is only available in a 5.3GHz or 5.8GHz solution further limiting the
flexibility the product offers.  As our HUB sites increase in number and
decrease in required coverage area we have found the 5.3GHz band to be VERY
valuable.  You do not have that flexibility with VL.

When Alvarion is presented with the freq and polarity suggestions they
simply respond with "we're RF purists" talking points.  No indication that
maybe, just maybe those would be good features to add to the product.

We deployed a VL in an above average noisy environment with the latest v3.x
firmware and the results were dismal to say the least.  Fortunately
upgrading to v4.0 allowed us to salvage the deal, but we still can only pass
a few Mbps.  This is far less than what a Trango M5830AP can do in a noisy
environment.

As with most things YMMV.

Best,


Brad



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 12:07 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL Fixes Problems with Backhaul Links

Please know that I am not really trying to trash Trango here. They are
still a viable product in some situations. Alvarion is simply so much
better that it warranted this upgrade. Obviously for heavily used links
feeding towers to other towns I think Trango multipoint is a bad option.
I have not used their Atlas radios which may well do a good job. Trango
has been a valuable product for many WISPs over the years (including
myself until recently). I have found though that for my applications in
feeding other towers to rural towns Alvarion VL works 100% better than
Trango or anything else I have ever used. If you have a need for a
low-cost short haul or CPE solution then I am guessing that the Trango
multipoint radios will still provide excellent service. Just because I
have soured on them does not mean they are not a platform for WISPs to
consider.
Scriv

I was thinking about using Trango for a link, but I do not want
headaches, not today and not 5 years from today.
   Thanks.

Mario

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