well, I for one converted 3 EL customers this week.  2 more
next week so far.

the DSL plant they're working with up here (Sprint local)
is just my best advertising.  Fastest they offer is 512 / 90. lol.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brian Webster
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly

If WISPA is serious about this someone hit me off list and I'll investigate
the internal EL contacts to start any negotiations.



Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>


-----Original Message-----
From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 9:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly


Now for the next phase that should happen.

EL should come to WISPA and work a deal with wisps nationwide.  WE provide
access to them on OUR networks.  Then EL stops loosing dialup customers in
Ephrata and Moses Lake.  But no need to spend the 2 million :-)

Hmmm, maybe I'm still ahead of the game after all?  grin marlon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:04 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly


> Yep- you are correct, sir- I have it from a very reliable source.
>
> * EL locates on City (or whatever utility it is) poles.
> * They pledge that they will allow other ISPs to wheel their service 
> over the network (many spare SSIDs are available)
> * They foot the bill for the install (I'd say 2 million for a small 
> city- just estimating)
> * They use gear that meshes and has intelligence so that it can 
> optimize and work around interference and congestion.
> * They co-produce with the city an event for the "unveiling" or "wire 
> cutting" and invite residents and businesses to sign up and give it a 
> free try.
> * Dialup customers (hopefully) migrate to the new broadband network. 
> Some mobile users will use the network for whatever it is that mobile
users do.
> *   Police, Fire, Building Inspections, etc  use the free accounts (if any
> were negotiated) and maybe additional accounts are purchased.
> * POSSIBLY Google or someone else rides the network subsidizing a free 
> tier of service (300 kb/s in San Francisco)
> * And (if the recent posting about Vonage is correct)- EL allows other 
> carriers to provide service via EL's infrastructure for a set fee.
>   These carriers could be  AOL, DirecTV internet, Odessa Office, 
> OneRing or even "Joes Best Little Internet Provider In Texas".
>
> It looks like it could be a win-win situation and a resource for EL, 
> the City, the residents and local businesses, AND the ISPs who choose 
> to use access to it as a means to enter the market in that town. 
> Imagine Marlon being able to branch out into San Francisco, New 
> Orleans, Philadelphia, Anaheim and any other markets available just by
inking a deal with EL.
>
> I think Municipal WiFi's definition is evolving. It doesn't have to be 
> *owned or funded* by a municipality, it just has to cover the 
> municipality.
>
> So far, I think Marlon's described network may fit the description, 
> assuming it has adequate on-street coverage.
> Notice I have said "on-street", not in-building. Getting it into the 
> building is another project, and there are at least 2 ways to do that.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 5:39 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly
>
> <snip>
>
> I learned today that I already have a few municipal networks myself!  
> Much like the Earthlink/SanFran network will be.
>
> Privately funded, open to competitors, uses city facilites, city gets 
> free services, covers 100% of the community.  Hmmm, sounds like what 
> I've been doing here for half a decade now!
>
> Ralph, stick up for me here....  grin
>
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