I did some checking, and I found I have eight towers within 10 miles of your
north tower at your house, and five towers within 10 miles of your Carlyle
pop.  You are at the edge of our coverage area, and I haven't had the
opportunity to meet with you yet.  I would be interested in finding more
about this "illegal" AP in our mutual area.  I run all of my pops at 40db or
less, so I know it is not one of mine.  I have had suspicions about some of
our competitors, but I am not aware of any of them being active on the

Maybe we should get together for lunch sometime.  Call me anytime.

Call me at 618-206-4190
Or skype mike.delp


-----Original Message-----
Behalf Of Chadd Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:50 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] TV white spaces

In our area "So IL/metro St.Louis" there are some large guys who are in no
way shape or form legal, over power limits and the whole 9 yards. I can see
other WISP Omni POP's with signal levels in the -70's from over 20 miles
away using a 9dBi on my end, figure up what the EIRP on that is. The one in
this case is a well know respected WISP that visits the popular lists, I
always hope that he doesn't know that is going on and one of his "guys" is
responsible but I have never taken the time to call them up and talk to them
about it either.

I don't know of any WISP's in this area "about 10 that I know of" including
myself who are 100% legal when it comes to using only certified equipment.
Most I think stay within power limits and "equivalent" antennas

The other issue I see in our area is all the new start up WISP's who know
nothing about the industry, the rules, networking, and don't know squat
about RF. These guys are going to be our Achilles heal IMHO. There are too
many vendors selling stuff and they are not concerned in the least bit
whether the guys they are selling to know anything about Part15 rules. When
I started four years ago it seemed like there were not near as many
uncertified options as there are today so I came into the industry using
certified equipment and knew what the rules were. It's too easy to buy
802.xx equipment throw it up on a pole and sell internet to a few users,
more than likely they are not going to be successful but it still hurts
everyone of us.

I admit I am a glass half empty kind of guy, but I don't think there we are
going to have any usable spectrum within the next one to two years because
of stuff like this.


> -----Original Message-----
> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:16 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV white spaces
> I agree that MOST wisps are likely compliant.
> Unfortuneately, it won't stay that way, if we let the industry slowly
> deteriorate and slide.
> I think compliance is a message that continually needs to be revisited,
> sorta like speed bumps. Its easy to not realize you are speeding, yet we
> all
> know where the speedometer is located.
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

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