It's going to be to easy Rick. If everyone will hold their horses and just "trot" for a short time they will get everything lined out. The ability to stream live data is already in place here and it's cheap. I don't know why it wouldn't be acceptable as it would be the live data stream they would ask for. What they do with it is their business, but that's just not a hard deal either.
I wish folks wouldn't be alarmists at this point because it does not help anyone or anything - it only tends to get folks feathers ruffled over nothing. Capturing the data that the FBI (or whoever) would want is a simple simple thing. It shouldn't cost us over $100.00 to implement and like I aid earlier - most of us already have a device(s) that can do this. Here is my thought on the matter: If some sleaze ball was calling my 10 year old daughter and was on someone's wireless network - I would want that bustard caught and put in jail - - with or without a subpoena!! Wouldn't you Mark? Or would you be hollering foul then as well?? Mac Dearman -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Smith Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 11:45 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Form 445 Ya know Mac, not funny, at the same time, funny. I think Mark's got a point, albeit dooms-day-ish. There's no fiscal or physical way small WISPs can comply with CALEA, and I want to know HOW SPECIFICALLY to do it, if you think it CAN be done... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 12:37 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Form 445 Patients who experience an acute psychotic episode lasting longer than one day but less than one month and that may or may not immediately follow an important life stress or a pregnancy (with postpartum onset). This illness usually comes as a surprise as there is no forewarning that the person is likely to "break down," although this disorder is more common in people with a pre-existing personality disorder (particularly histrionic and borderline types). The main diagnostic criteria is as follows: The patient has at least one of the following that is not a culturally sanctioned response: 1. Delusions 2. Hallucinations 3. Speech that is markedly disorganized 4. Behavior that is markedly disorganized or catatonic. The patient has symptoms from 1 to 30 days and eventually recovers completely. The disturbance is not better accounted for by a Mood Disorder With Psychotic Features, Schizoaffective Disorder, or Schizophrenia and is not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., a drug of abuse, a medication) or a general medical condition. Sincerely, Mac Dearman -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wispa Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 10:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Form 445 On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:46:13 -0500, Rick Smith wrote > I think I'm going to be the first to say this, but > I don't have time to give a crap about calea. I'm > taking advantage of an industry organization to do > something on my behalf, because I can't have the > time to give a crap later when the FCC comes knocking > after finding out I DIDN'T file... I predict that somewhere around 80% of small ISP's won't file. Many won't even know they have to. Just think, EVERY block size network. If you build out for your neighborhood and have 10 neighbors... YOU have to fork out the big bucks, YOU are now dead. You just don't know it yet, because you have no idea on earth that the federal govenrment has just taken wholesale control of the ISP business. > > Now, I run Mikrotik everywhere, and I've seen comments > about packet monitoring "being OK" for compliance, and > I'll STILL not do anything until I'm provided with a > subpoena, but I figure having the paperwork THERE is > probably a necessary evil. > You can bet that any "industry" standard derived will derived with the input from the telecoms to bankrupt as many small ISP's as possible. I predict that in 2 years there will not be enough WISP's left to fund WISPA at all, unless the dues go up on the order 20 to 50 times. > This, in my opinion, is just big brother licensed > extortion for the little guys. Paying a TPP for > snooping on your customers is just crap. But, what > are you going to do ? You're going to pay and then you're going to go out of business. -------------------------------------------- Mark Koskenmaki <> Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
