Zack,

I salute you for your integrity and your ability to manage 11 email accounts. I, on the other hand, in my waking hours between 6 AM and 2 AM barely have the ability to keep up with email on a single Thunderbird email account. For me, practicality wins the day and I'll continue to try and manage and use one main email account that appends one sig file.

I do agree that clarification of the rules is important long as we don't get into so much hairsplitting that life becomes totally impractical (well, not any more impractical than it already is anyway) :)

Best Regards,
              jack



Zack Kneisley wrote:
Jack,

Actually,  that is exactly what I do, you will notice the gmail address? I
have a total of seven gmail addresses that I use. Some reply with a
signature, some don't. I also use Outlook that has 4 pop accounts that it
checks. Two accounts it checks send the same signature one that doesn't and
another that sends an entirely different signature. This is why my
signature, or lack thereof, is not present when I reply to this list. I
don't self promote, because the rules say I shouldn't.

This method is actually the most efficient, most organized, and the easiest
way to sort, search, respond and recall messages that I have ever had in
place in the past 18 years of using the internet. Gopher was alot simpler
back then hu? lol

I don't really have a preference of a sig or no sig or the use of more than
"One email file". I just would like clarification of what can or cannot be
done accordance with this lists rules.

Zack

On 5/17/07, Jack Unger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Zack,

It is totallly impractical to create and have to (somehow) manage
different email files for different lists, responses to clients, etc.
One email file is the only practical way to go.

jack


Zack Kneisley wrote:
> On 5/17/07, David E. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Zack Kneisley wrote:
>>
>> > I don't feel that ANY promotion of products or services in a
signature
>> of
>> > this particular list should be allowed unless you pay for it.
>>
>> That gets into the incredibly fuzzy question of "what counts as
>> promotion," though.
>
>
> As I put it, I think there should be a limit of what should be included
> in a
> signature due to the fact that it could and is inevitably advertising
your
> company.
>
>
> Let's take the email thread, as an example.
>>
>> If I'm the owner of SuperDeluxeEmail and post "you should use my
company
>> because it's the best," that's probably self-promotion.
>
>
> I agree
>
> What if I say "you should use my company because I'm a WISPA member?" Is >> that promotion, or an advertisement of the sort WISPA has been known to
>> offer to paying vendor members?
>
>
> Wispa vendor based advertising is, or should be limited to the specific
> advertisement only based posts that that vendor has paid for.
>
>
> What if I don't disclose that I own SuperDeluxeEmail?
>
>
> Good question, this is a "fuzzy" type of situation, and the person is
being
> dishonest in posting their views because it is biased. they should
disclose
> this info. Most companies do when they report on a financial partner.
Ever
> watch the evening news when they report on a parent company? They
purposely
> disclose this information.
>
>
> What if I'm using a sock puppet to tell people how awesome
>> SuperDeluxeEmail is?
>
>
> Dishonest and shoud be treated so.
>
> What if, instead of being the owner of the company, I'm just a minority
>> investor? Or "merely" a very satisfied customer?
>
>
> Disclose it then.
>
> What if I think it's a lousy company and I want you to use their service
>> so you'll think it's lousy and join me in publicly bad-mouthing them?
>
>
> Not quite sure what you mean.
>
> There's a lot of subtle levels here.
>>
>> Honestly, IMO a lot of the value of this list comes from the fact that
a
>> lot of different vendors are directly, or indirectly, represented here.
>> A little self-promotion is probably inevitable, and probably healthy.
>> (If you can't promote yourself and your business at least a little bit,
>> you won't be in business for very long.)
>
>
> Rules
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
> 5) No selling or self promotion allowed.
>
>
> Giving WISPA money doesn't (or at least shouldn't) mean that everyone
>> walks on eggshells around your booth in the ongoing trade show that is
>> this mailing list, and doesn't mean that we'll overlook any problems or
>> shortcomings in your product. Conversely, if you make a good product,
we
>> won't ignore it out-of-hand because you haven't yet tithed. (We'll
>> probably encourage you to do so, but...)
>
>
> Not talking about a booth, talking about direct advertisement in a
> community
> post.
>
> If we're going to start treating some folks differently based solely
>> upon whether they're paying members of WISPA, this list loses a lot of
>> its value.
>
>
> No, just no self promotion that you can "buy this product through me" in
a
> general post. this doesn't mean you can't say "this product is good
because
> it does this and this"
>
> It is all a little fuzzy, but I think signatures should be limited to a
> single link to their site, if not, the majority of the list is breaking
the
> rules.
>
> If you don't agree, then maybe the rules need to be changed, or enforced
> differently.
>
>
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