My understanding of the rules is that they would not have to allow any specific level of service for free. Only make the protocol, channel spacing/width, etc, open and free. Ok so everyone gets dialup for free, with ads (Think NetZero here). Then, anyone that wants a faster service pays. They would not need to pay much to make it profitable and do so fast. With free/open devices every manufacture will make one. Cell phones will gain access, they would have to else the first two or three devices would put the cell industry out of business (ok not out, but bleeding). Next (or maybe first) laptops will have it (I would bet Intel would be first here) and that would absolutely kick the cell industry in to gear. Next (or again, first) mp3 players and devices like that (iPod, mobile dvd players, cars themselves, etc) would, if first, kick the other two in gear.
Using the numbers from Travis: Call it $10K per tower for setup/hardware/back haul. $0 per cpe as they will let the end user pick the device and pay for it. How much area could 100,000 towers cover? Even double or triple the price per tower, thats at least 33,000 sites. And how many will they relay build out? Deals with cell carriers to do the build out or some such that off loads the cost and logistics to some degree would be the likely path. On 7/22/07, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There has to be more to the "everyone can use it" stuff... Google is going to spend 4.6 Billion and then just let anyone that wants to use it for free? Or comparing to the modem stuff, you had to connect to a specific ISP (by dialing that number). Are there going to be multiple ISP's in the same area on the same 700mhz area? Google is in this to make money... either by selling the service cheap and going for very large quantities, or giving it away for free and maybe making the default homepage www.google.com. They have lots of options... but they aren't going to drop 4.6 Billion without some plan on how to make it back and then some. Travis Microserv Michael Erskine wrote: > Travis Johnson wrote: >> And thus you just hit the nail on the head... and it brings us back >> full circle to the original subject of this thread... >> >> Google is going to bid on 700mhz spectrum... billions of dollars... >> then, once they own it, they are going to start some type of wireless >> internet service using that spectrum... and then, they WILL be >> competing directly with all the ISP's. And, they will probably give >> the service away FREE, just like they do now with their WiFi service. >> Can you compete with FREE service, using 700mhz NLOS technology >> (meaning self-install, take the modem with you to work type service)? > > I think they probably will sell the service. Their argument is that > it should be an OPEN service, meaning that anyone's devices have to > work with it. Kind of like, modems back in the day. Any modem could > connect to a Cisco RAS server and anyone could own a RAS server if he > had a line. Google seems to be saying that the rules for the spectrum > should allow anyone to build a device which will work on the spectrum > *AND* anyone who licenses the spectrum will have to honor such a device. > > Those rules are a heck of a lot more fair than the rules currently > being discussed. > > >> >> So, now who's your friend? They have a huge recurring income from the >> search engine, so they don't have to make a dime on other services... >> gmail, Google Earth, etc. are all examples. They will just add 700mhz >> wireless to the list of "free" things they provide. > > Travis, Google is not the Evil Empire... Why do you think they are? > They have a recurring income from the world's best search engine. Why > is that a problem? Google Earth is a problem, why? Check out > Microsoft selling you www.terraserver.com. Yep, they are reselling > you the data that your tax dollars bought in the first place... That > is why I use www.terraserver-usa.com, the site they are required by > law to support. Slower, but it works. > > I don't know why you are afraid of Google. I don't think they are > coming to a town near you. Maybe they will come to your town to *buy > you out*, but they probably won't come to your town to crush your > business... Verizon will. > > Michael: "Hello, yes, the lady at Verizon told me that there was > nothing you could do about the problems we are having with their DSL > service, the one we are reselling, yes." > > Lady at FCC: "Well, sadly she is correct. Unless the quality of > service is the problem, we can not help you." > > I don't know Travis, but it looks to me like you have a great life. > Why worry yourself over Google's market share? > > -m- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board > know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA > lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this > time. We want to know your thoughts. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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