Ok... let's take a look at it for a second... Time Magazine article from
2006 documents how a senior writer for CNET wanted to see how much they
could learn about the CEO of Google using just Google to search. Well,
they found all kinds of info (address, home phone, salary and other
incomes, etc. etc.). The founders of Google were outraged and were going
to "ban" CNET because of it. They later reconsidered, but let's think
about this for a second:
They could have actually _removed_ CNET from all their search databases
and effectively made CNET non-existant on a Google search (for 600
million people). This could have all been done because someone made them
mad.
Is there anything we can do? Not really. Am I changing my business
direction or plan because of it? No. But it continues to amaze me that
people in "high places" watch these things happen and don't even
question it until it's too late. Google is buying up little companies
all the time... they literally have more money than they can spend right
now... that puts them in a very scary position for all of us.
Travis
Microserv
Michael Erskine wrote:
Good lord, when did this wave of paranoia begin? I missed it.
Should I be terrified that Google is going to "own" the Internet as I
know it? What shall I do?
What shall I do? You mean that Google is going to come to my town and
try to triple the local
loop charges on my fractional DS-3 simply because I want my carrier to
double the bandwidth...
... same fiber, different signaling rate, triple the local loop ...
Only Verizon can pull of something
like that and get away with it.
But back to the topic.
What *exactly* do I have to fear from Google? These vague suggestions
that they are going to
control the internet are obviously paranoia unless you can document
something dark and sinister
about Google...
So, rather than make all these irrational claims, why not just
*document* how google is the evil
empire and they are taking over the internet...
The very idea that they do 44% of the searches on the Internet and so
they are in control is
ludacris on it's face. Anyone can use any search engine they want to
use. Therefore Google does
not control sqaut, except what people let them control.
... and that Jonathan, and Travis, is simple business ...
There is no evil empire behind the curtain. Honest.
Take the blue pill, Neo...
-m-
Jonathan Schmidt wrote:
Travis, your figures are right on and we've been there since the
start, too,
in fact were #19 in Sprint's first customers for dedicated Internet
connection before that.
Something curious is happening and it deserves close scrutiny...
starting
before NOW!
We're (paper-presenting) members of MAAWG and CEAS ...organizations
you all
should watch...and start that now, too.
. . . j o n a t h a n
Jonathan Schmidt
Perftech, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 11:07 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google makes it official -- putting up $4.6 billion
I'm not sure what the hell your problem is, but you really need to
get a grip. I started in the internet space in 1994... back before
Google or even Altavista... back when there were no real search
engines to speak of... and now today, Google's search is used by 44%
of ALL internet searches... so, whether you believe it or not, they
CAN control what searches are displayed for 44% of the internet....
that's only about 600 million people.
Postini does SPAM blocking and filtering for a very large percentage
of the internet today... we have been using them for almost 4 years.
Large corporations (Apple, Sun, and others) also use them. So, once
again, with Google buying Postini, they can control a _very_ large
percentage of what emails get thru and don't get thru.
Sounds like you are prepared to have Google control the internet for
you rather than some ILEC that can really never have control... but
some of us are not. Some of us helped get the internet where it is
today because it was open and not controlled. You really need to open
your eyes and take a look around... Google is becoming the Microsoft
of internet space.
Travis
Microserv
Michael Erskine wrote:
Travis Johnson wrote:
Google is quietly and methodically taking control of the internet.
They already control what results we see on a search...
No they don't... Once upon a time there was CERN's search engine
and then there was Altavista, and then there was
Yahoo, and then there was MSN, and Google. So you see, Google does
not control what results we see on a search,
if we but realize that there are other search engines. Mr. Jeeve's?
and with the purchase of Postini, they will be able to control what
emails we actually receive. And now they are bidding on wireless
spectrum.
OMG. They are going to control what E-Mail's we receive? Will that
help with the spam problem? LoL dude.
Nobody can control what E-Mail's you receive but your mail host and
sadly it can only do so much.
They are just slowly taking over little pieces of the net... bit by
bit... :(
Yeah, bad! evil! Google! Fighting for net neutrality against all
those nicey nice ILECs who have nothing but our
own best interests at heart. :)
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