If you sell a national backbone what do you have in North Texas? I need
bandwidth desperately and cant find anything less than about $250/Meg.
Jory Privett
WCCS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alternate transport providers, Cogent
George Rogato wrote:
I'm very serious.
I've read it over and over again on the various list from those who
resell other bandwidth bashing cogent.
Understood, but we don't resell other bandwidth; we sell our own. We are
not a tier 1, but we do operate a national backbone and believe there are
reasons to chose us over the competition as I outlined in a previous
email.
It's a stratergy, if you sell high, bash the low.
makes sense.
It does make sense, but where there is smoke there is fire. Cogent is a
good company and is good at what they do. There is nothing wrong with
their network from a technical sense. They have no pricing flexibility,
which I explained in a previous email, which can be both good and bad
depending on the situation. See
http://www.renesys.com/blog/2007/08/cogents_secret_weapon.shtml for a
positive spin on that.
Really, Cogent's performance problems are more political than technical,
but they exist nevertheless. We have a unique view into Cogent's network
in that we buy a significant amount of services from them, we wirelessly
connect some of their customers to their network, we see their global
internet performance as any other NSP would that is interconnected in
multiple cities, and we participate on the NANOG and outages mailing
lists. All of this allows us to see their problems, which they have on a
regular basis. Most of their problems are peering related, which is not
their fault, but it is their problem. For example, Cogent hardly peers at
all on the east coast except in DC, NYC, and Miami. See
http://cogentco.com/htdocs/peering.php. That means here in Atlanta getting
to and from Cogent's network and other's means a trip through DC. This is
the case throughout the country and it means that Cogent inherently has
poorer performance than other similar size networks.
Understand this, Cogent is one of the largest networks in the world, but
its interconnection with the other top 10 networks is poor. Our little
company has more peering with major networks than Cogent in Atlanta.
Again, you can buy better bandwidth than Cogent for less than Cogent.
Cogent is no longer the low priced leader. We just need people to think
they are, so others continue to drop their price and aggressively peer in
a fight to beat Cogent. Cogent is the company to beat from a sales
perspective as they are probably the best executed.
-Matt
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