I think it also depends on your application.  The people asking and
answering these questions may be apples and oranges.

Mark Nash
UnwiredWest
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Intel-based 4-port Fast Ethernet Card - StarOS


> We already do. Imagestream and Mikrotik for over 2 years. 0 downtime
> and hot spares in the rack. :)
>
> Travis
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 18, 2008, at 11:56 AM, "Mark Nash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Yes, I would.
> >
> > Mark Nash
> > UnwiredWest
> > 78 Centennial Loop
> > Suite E
> > Eugene, OR 97401
> > 541-998-5555
> > 541-998-5599 fax
> > http://www.unwiredwest.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joshua Rowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 9:21 AM
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Intel-based 4-port Fast Ethernet Card - StarOS
> >
> >
> >> This should maybe be a new thread, and I'm not sure Tom is making
> >> this
> > point
> >> or not,, but I agree, would you trust your CORE to anything but
> >> Cisco? I'm
> >> not sure I would.
> >>
> >> Josh
> >>
> >> --
> >> NexGenAccess Inc. <http://www.nexgenaccess.com>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------- Original Message -----------
> >> From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:45:36 -0500
> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Intel-based 4-port Fast Ethernet Card - StarOS
> >>
> >>>> What does MT do that Star doesn't do in the routing arena?
> >>>
> >>> I'll add that both platforms have the same flaw.  They use
> >>> OpenSource, but then close the system. Seems kind of opposite the
> > purpose.
> >>> On a possitive note, I have to say, Mikrotik has really innovated
> >>> their platform, with a lot of their own code and solutions, to solve
> >>> problems that couldn't be solved using the previous alternative
> >>> popular open source apps usually used for those purposes.  My hats
> >>> goes off  to them.
> >>>
> >>> But the risk that keeps popping up is...  They aren't Cisco, in the
> >>> terms of 1000's of top tier people to research and support
> >>> development of their platform. Can we trust MT's or any small
> >>> player's proprietary code, for the long haul?  In the Open Source
> >>> world, there is a clear answer to that, make it open source, and if
> >>> the developer stops maintaining it, there is a way to get someone to
> >>> take over maintaining it, without loosing the investment into the
> > platform.
> >>>
> >>> I'm not saying companies like MT and STAROS should make their
> >>> proprietary code into open source. But what I like is the ability to
> >>> ADD packages to an existing platform.
> >>>
> >>> I can give an example, of a monthy ago, when I installed a MT router
> >>> because , I thought the pretty GUI would make a good impression, but
> >>> then 24hours later I had to pull it because there was no way for me
> >>> to test the performance of the link remotely, easilly for my
> >>> specific situation. I needed Iperf on the router. It was a better
> >>> choice to use a standard Linux system, basic native routing, because
> >>> it also enabled Iperf.
> >>>
> >>> MT and STAROS are two nice products, but this discussion doesn't
> >>> stop there.
> >>>
> >>> For example ImageStream, even though a bit more expensive, they
> >>> provide an Open system. Their OS is maintained and preloaded with a
> >>> few bells and whistles.  But you CAN LOAD your own code ALSO.
> >>>
> >>> Then there is Voyeta.  Its based on 2.6 Kernal of Linux, and its
> >>> 100% open source, and give the security of using a maintained OS
> >>> (for example BGP and QUAGGA fixes). But you can pay extra for
> >>> maintenance and quicker updates.
> >>>
> >>> MT and STARTOS, will stay winners for high end WIFI Radio CPE and
> >>> APs. But when it comes to Core Routers, to stay competitive, they
> >>> really need to open the platform, and allow third party modules to
> >>> be loaded by owners or developers.  Sure, there is the arguement
> >>> that "CISCO DOESN"T DO  THAT", but they aren't Cisco.
> >>>
> >>> Tom DeReggi
> >>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> >>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
> >>>
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