I don't think there is anything wrong with comparing used prices with others new prices, if the used gear potentially has a reputation of a longer life span due to quality engineering, or a good aftermarket repair channel..
The downfalls I see are.... most people can't find that caliber (12000 series) gear for $3k used, or for that matter any MPLS gear used. There is little need to liquidate MPLS gear under market value. Availabilty isn't as predictable. What happpens when the 12000 series gear goes down, and one needs an immediate replacement, will they have to fork our $30K to get it fixed over night? So if quoting used, it should be a used product that likely would have several consistent sources in the open market, to be a fair comparison. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router Wars '08 > Matt Liotta wrote: > >> Anyway, that is a silly question. Here is a better one. I am currently >> paying around $3k for Cisco 12008s that are fully redundant, can >> handle today's full tables (i.e. greater than 256,000 routes), route >> at line speed, support MPLS, etc. Can you name any solution that for >> the same cost could achieve equivalent results? > > Where are you getting your gear? That's roughly 90% less than any price > I've ever been quoted. Heck, that's cheaper than a lot of the used units > on eBay - and that's just empty chassis, not even including line cards. > Are you sure you didn't leave out a zero in there somewhere? > > (You wouldn't use the pricing of used gear instead of new to try to make > your point, would you? :P ) > > As an aside, a serious question for those who buy/use used Cisco gear. > My understanding is that IOS licenses are tied not just to the hardware, > but also to the purchaser thereof, and are non-transferable. Thus, if > you buy a used Cisco (anything) you aren't supposed to use it without > contacting Cisco and paying for IOS. (Not "just" for access to updates, > but to even boot your chosen device, you're technically required to give > Cisco some money.) Did this ever change? > > (Also, Matt: if you seriously are getting GSR 12000s and IOS for that > cheap, email me offlist, I'm genuinely intrigued.) > > > David Smith > MVN.net > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1333 - Release Date: 3/18/2008 > 8:10 AM > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
