On Mar 18, 2008, at 1:11 PM, David E. Smith wrote:

>
> Where are you getting your gear? That's roughly 90% less than any  
> price
> I've ever been quoted. Heck, that's cheaper than a lot of the used  
> units
> on eBay - and that's just empty chassis, not even including line  
> cards.
> Are you sure you didn't leave out a zero in there somewhere?
>
That is a real number. I'm a savvy shopper. ;)

> (You wouldn't use the pricing of used gear instead of new to try to  
> make
> your point, would you? :P )
>
Of course it is used. Cisco EOLed the 12008 some time ago.

> As an aside, a serious question for those who buy/use used Cisco gear.
> My understanding is that IOS licenses are tied not just to the  
> hardware,
> but also to the purchaser thereof, and are non-transferable. Thus, if
> you buy a used Cisco (anything) you aren't supposed to use it without
> contacting Cisco and paying for IOS. (Not "just" for access to  
> updates,
> but to even boot your chosen device, you're technically required to  
> give
> Cisco some money.) Did this ever change?
>
That is a complicated question. The simplest answer I can give you is  
that we don't use the IOS that comes with the used gear.

I would say in general that if your shop doesn't have significant  
experience with Cisco in general you can likely get burned buying used  
Cisco gear. There is even the whole counterfeit problem you have to  
watch out for.

-Matt



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