Matt Liotta wrote:

> Anyway, that is a silly question. Here is a better one. I am currently  
> paying around $3k for Cisco 12008s that are fully redundant, can  
> handle today's full tables (i.e. greater than 256,000 routes), route  
> at line speed, support MPLS, etc. Can you name any solution that for  
> the same cost could achieve equivalent results?

Where are you getting your gear? That's roughly 90% less than any price 
I've ever been quoted. Heck, that's cheaper than a lot of the used units 
on eBay - and that's just empty chassis, not even including line cards. 
Are you sure you didn't leave out a zero in there somewhere?

(You wouldn't use the pricing of used gear instead of new to try to make 
your point, would you? :P )

As an aside, a serious question for those who buy/use used Cisco gear. 
My understanding is that IOS licenses are tied not just to the hardware, 
but also to the purchaser thereof, and are non-transferable. Thus, if 
you buy a used Cisco (anything) you aren't supposed to use it without 
contacting Cisco and paying for IOS. (Not "just" for access to updates, 
but to even boot your chosen device, you're technically required to give 
Cisco some money.) Did this ever change?

(Also, Matt: if you seriously are getting GSR 12000s and IOS for that 
cheap, email me offlist, I'm genuinely intrigued.)


David Smith
MVN.net


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