oh, and they support larger channels, so you can actually provide usable bandwidth to your customers.
---------- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 8:56 AM To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 > There are companies out there working on non-802.11 3.65 GHz systems that > provide the same spectral efficiency as WiMAX, but without the WiMAX hype > price tag. > > > ---------- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > From: Travis Johnson > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 8:30 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] 3.65 > > > Matt, > > I agree. We are looking at the same thing... putting up some 3.65ghz AP's > on our "bigger" towers and moving heavy usage customers to that. However, > until base stations are less than $8k, the WiMax people can keep spending > money on advertising, trade-shows, etc. telling us how great they are, I'm > not going to buy. > > When you can buy a licensed microwave radio link for $8k (less antennas), > and you know the company is making money, there is no reason 3.65ghz base > stations have to be $8k+. > > Hopefully at some point, they will wake up and realize there is an entire > market they are missing. > > Travis > Microserv > > Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: > I'm with Travis on this, with the exception of using StarOS instead of > Mikrotik. It is nice to have a set of standard, mature tools such as > radius, cbq/iptable rules and standard, non-vendor specific hardware to > work with instead of having to use a limited, proprietary system limited > to a single vendor. I've deployed/consulted on 802.11 a/b/g networks > representing 8000+ CPE units and it can be made to work just fine as > long as it is managed properly. Travis is a pro, and he has the > experience to design his network in such a way as to maximize the > performance of his equipment. There are many others out there having > the same success. > > FWIW, I believe the most logical next step is to start moving heavy > usage customers over to 3.65 WiMAX gear starting next spring. I think > we are near the threshold of what is going to be possible with > unlicensed equipment - barring some kind of amazing breakthrough. I > foresee a need to deploy smaller and smaller cells to maintain the > desired performance level. It helps to have 10mhz channel sizes > available to maximize the utilization of existing spectrum, but even > that is starting to get awfully crowded. Whitespaces sure would help. > > I spent the last two years putting up 802.11a based APs across my entire > service area and migrating customers from 2.4 to them to get the higher > ARPU from faster speeds and VOIP service. I foresee spending the next > two years deploying licensed backhauls and 3.65 APs starting with the > high traffic areas and working out to the fringes. Its the neverending > story. > > Matt Larsen > vistabeam.com > > > > Travis Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > We don't use DHCP. Every single customer gets a real, static IP address. > We also a assign a static IP address to every radio (for management). > > When I posted the question a month ago about how to force an SM to > connect to a specific AP on a tower, the only answer was "color code". > This isn't really an option, as that means the installer has to change > the color code in the field. All of our current radios are setup and > ready to connect to ANY tower and ANY AP on that tower without the > installer doing anything in the field. > > And how does first level tech support even find the correct radio in the > AP list for a customer on the phone? They have to scroll through 160 > people to find them by MAC address? > > Yes, Canopy is a slower radio in today's world. 14Mbps of total > throughput on a 20mhz channel is SLOW. Using Mikrotik I can get 30Mbps > (double the speed) on the same channel size. Or I can use a 10mhz > channel and get 15Mbps. And all these speeds can be delivered via upload > or download or any combination, I don't have to set a specific > percentage of up/down. > > And how do you guarantee 7ms latency? What happens if a customer gets > 8ms? And how do they test that measurement? And what happens when a -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
