Indeed leasing is hard to get. I haven't tried recently and maybe I will this spring, but it was easier for me to get a revolving line of credit at my bank (and later a non-revolving line of credit) from my bank than to get a lease on anything.
Some lessors will only work with certain brands of equipment, while others will let you purchase anything (Mikrotik parts). ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:46 AM To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds > I don't question the value of Leasing for a second. I just think that it > is > to hard to get Leasing. > WISPs should not be considered any more HIGH risk than any other business. > In today's economy WISPs are doing better than many other industries, and > the demand is still growing daily. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 9:36 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds > > >> Hi, >> >> Yes, you still have to pay for it... but instead of being upside down >> with the customer for the first 3-6 months (depending on equipment), you >> begin making money on that customer from day 1. So you no longer worry >> about "do I have enough money to buy the equipment to install that >> customer" and instead can focus on "get as many customers installed as >> quickly as possible". >> >> Also, by buying 250 units at a time, you get a much better price on the >> equipment... which sometimes can even out the extra you pay by financing. >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> Steve Barnes wrote: >>> I guess maybe I am old school but leasing the CPE just makes it so that >>> the monthly fee has to pay the CPE cost instead of the install. You >>> still have to pay for it. It may make cash flow easier but the ROI >>> takes longer due to interest rates and labor dealing with lease Co. >>> Can you help me with that one. >>> >>> >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> >>> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:45 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds >>> >>> >>> >>> Honestly, the fastest way to grow is to lease your CPE. Then the install >>> fee covers your cost on every install, and you aren't "upside down" on >>> every new customer. >>> >>> Travis >>> Microserv >>> >>> Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: >>> >>> You are doing it. Just keep bootstrapping. Once you get 1000 >>> subscribers >>> things will be a bit better. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Steve Barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 7:32 PM >>> Subject: [WISPA] Client Speeds >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I have read many post on this list about how much bandwidth >>> different >>> WISP offer. I want to discuss that as well as the recommended >>> equipment >>> that is so often discussed on this list. >>> >>> >>> >>> I am a startup. Little to no startup capital. I had to pinch >>> each >>> penny to get as much as possible out of it. My goal was to >>> service the >>> clients no one wanted in a county that had no Fiber or DSL other >>> that >>> what Verizon holds hostage. So now after 2 years I have 8 >>> towers with >>> 320 clients. >>> >>> >>> >>> The service I offer is a $39.99 basic level 640k x 256k and a >>> $59.99 Pro >>> Level 1M x 512k. You guys are talking about 10Mb. If I turn >>> off the >>> speed control on AP's and let people play I don't get over 3.5M >>> on any >>> of them. ( 2.4 MT or StarOS, and Tranzeo CPE's) I use a StarOS >>> Full >>> Duplex Link to Backhaul to a Fiber connection that I Share cost >>> of with >>> another WISP my size. The investment I would have to make to >>> achieve >>> 10MB to each client is financially Impossible. >>> >>> >>> >>> Surely some of you big guys out there have been in my shoes. >>> What do >>> you recommend a small WISP in my situation to do in the future. >>> >>> >>> >>> Please don't start with the statement, "How you should have >>> started you >>> service". I was providing a solution. So this is what I have >>> and I >>> know of at least 6 other small WISP's on this list who are in >>> the same >>> boat. >>> >>> >>> >>> So BIG GUYS think back. How do I grow into new BROADBAND >>> definition >>> without rebuilding my network from the ground up. What is >>> everyone >>> charging and what does the client get for that price. Financing >>> is not >>> readily available and the Boss hopes to one day get some ROI. >>> No >>> Grants available and no big group wanting to invest or challenge >>> Verizon. >>> >>> >>> >>> Steve Barnes >>> >>> RC-WiFi.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> -------- >>> WISPA Wants You! 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