> the really big WISP's all deploy Canopy I think for a reason Canopy makes a real nice platform now, and some large companies may use Canopy.. But that comment is in no way true.
I can name just as many large companies that deploy, Trango, Alvarion, StarOS, etc. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "3-dB Networks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds > Steve, > > I think Mesa Networks former CEO (if your not familiar with our company we > are a spin off of Mesa Networks) Todd Bergstrom attributes part of our > success by leasing equipment early on as a WISP. He wrote an article here > about leasing that might change your mind. http://tinyurl.com/5uowsx > > Basically look at it this way. If you lease your equipment, it allows you > to build that next tower site, get customers installed, increase your > revenue. You end up paying more in the long run because of the interest, > but you may also save money by being able to buy in bulk from your vendor > instead of individual or 5 packs. Todd probably explains it better in the > article. > > Other than this, I've been racking my brains on things that another WISP > can > replicate to expand... and the only thing I can think of is equipment > related... I know we couldn't have built our network using an 802.11a/b/g > solution (although our networks first couple hundred customers were on > KarlNet) because you hit an oversubscription on the AP really fast. We > had > many many AP's with 50+ customers... we would not have been successful > without timing and the ability to place so many customers on an AP. Our > WISP almost failed back in 2002 (before I joined Mesa) because we hit the > limitations of the KarlNet system. My experiences with a Tranzeo network > in > 2006/2007 lead me to believe things really haven't changed that much (its > all still 802.11 and its hard to make significant improvements to it). So > while this is probably along the lines of rip out your network and start > over... the really big WISP's all deploy Canopy I think for a reason. > > My 2 cents, take them for what they are worth (which 2 cents isn't worth > much anymore) > > Daniel White > 3-dB Networks > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Steve Barnes >> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 3:53 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds >> >> I guess maybe I am old school but leasing the CPE just makes it so that >> the monthly fee has to pay the CPE cost instead of the install. You >> still have to pay for it. It may make cash flow easier but the ROI >> takes longer due to interest rates and labor dealing with lease Co. >> Can you help me with that one. >> >> >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Travis Johnson >> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:45 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds >> >> >> >> Honestly, the fastest way to grow is to lease your CPE. Then the install >> fee covers your cost on every install, and you aren't "upside down" on >> every new customer. >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: >> >> You are doing it. Just keep bootstrapping. Once you get 1000 >> subscribers >> things will be a bit better. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Steve Barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 7:32 PM >> Subject: [WISPA] Client Speeds >> >> >> >> >> I have read many post on this list about how much bandwidth >> different >> WISP offer. I want to discuss that as well as the recommended >> equipment >> that is so often discussed on this list. >> >> >> >> I am a startup. Little to no startup capital. I had to pinch >> each >> penny to get as much as possible out of it. My goal was to >> service the >> clients no one wanted in a county that had no Fiber or DSL other >> that >> what Verizon holds hostage. So now after 2 years I have 8 >> towers with >> 320 clients. >> >> >> >> The service I offer is a $39.99 basic level 640k x 256k and a >> $59.99 Pro >> Level 1M x 512k. You guys are talking about 10Mb. If I turn >> off the >> speed control on AP's and let people play I don't get over 3.5M >> on any >> of them. ( 2.4 MT or StarOS, and Tranzeo CPE's) I use a StarOS >> Full >> Duplex Link to Backhaul to a Fiber connection that I Share cost >> of with >> another WISP my size. The investment I would have to make to >> achieve >> 10MB to each client is financially Impossible. >> >> >> >> Surely some of you big guys out there have been in my shoes. >> What do >> you recommend a small WISP in my situation to do in the future. >> >> >> >> Please don't start with the statement, "How you should have >> started you >> service". I was providing a solution. So this is what I have >> and I >> know of at least 6 other small WISP's on this list who are in >> the same >> boat. >> >> >> >> So BIG GUYS think back. How do I grow into new BROADBAND >> definition >> without rebuilding my network from the ground up. What is >> everyone >> charging and what does the client get for that price. Financing >> is not >> readily available and the Boss hopes to one day get some ROI. >> No >> Grants available and no big group wanting to invest or challenge >> Verizon. >> >> >> >> Steve Barnes >> >> RC-WiFi.com >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> -------- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> -------- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> -------- >> WISPA Wants You! 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