LOL! That's really a pretty good description of any really large and beaurocratic organization....
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ <insert witty tagline here> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <ch...@beehive.net> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow >I generally characterize our "government", (to folks from other places >where > there is not so much freedom) as an insane giant robot that was originally > created to work for us and is collectively owned by all of us. > > We have hired hundreds of thousands of programmers and mechanics to fix it > and enhance it and rid it of its insanity but none of the fixers talk to > each other before trying out the latest release of firmware. > > One guy will fix the foot and the hand starts smashing houses. > > This analogy has gotten some interesting conversations started with folks > from the middle east. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Broadwick" <jeffl...@comcast.net> > To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 3:15 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow > > >> "Government" is not a monolith, and to condemn it out of hand is >> unreasonable. You can certainly go to local, even state government >> meetings, and express your opinion, and have an impact. I've done so >> many >> times (and I also sit on the other side of the table on my local township >> board). My issue is with the Feds, and it's the best reason to join a >> group >> like Wispa. There is no way that a small/medium sized provider can hope >> to >> have any sort of a voice at that level, unless you happen to personally >> know >> the chairman of the particular committee or sub-committee that effects >> you. >> Possible, but unlikely. >> >> Happy New Year! >> >> Jeff >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Jack Unger >> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 4:29 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow >> >> Jeff, >> >> I disagree (not with you but) with people who can do nothing but >> mindlessly >> condemn "the government". The next time their house catches on fire they >> better forget all about calling the Fire Dept - after all, it's run by >> "the >> government". When it snows they should stop expecting a snow plow to >> clear >> the road... snow plowing is provided by "the government". For that >> matter, >> they should stop expecting to drive on paved roads at all... roads are >> built >> and maintained by "the government". >> >> People who mindlessly condemn "the government" are hypocrites, pure and >> simple. They take government help with one hand while loudly denouncing >> what >> "the government" is doing for others. If these people were really good >> citizens, they would shut their mouths, get the act in gear and get out >> to >> some government meetings to politely and respectfully 1) express their >> opinions and 2) volunteer their time to work to help create positive >> change >> in their community. >> >> jack >> >> >> Jeff Broadwick wrote: >>> I'm not sure what you disagree with here Jack. Personally, I think >>> the less government involvement the better. They will throw money at >>> people who have spent money lobbying them (likely not the small/medium >>> sized WISP). The money will be used poorly in many/most cases and the >>> buildout will not have the desired effect. Also, it is likely that >>> your competition will get the lion's share of the money, since many >>> WISPs serve as the only broadband provider in a small market. >>> >>> I think the RUS loans are a far better way of getting things done. If >>> they want to subsidize something they can reduce the interest rate to >>> the borrower. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Jeff >>> >>> _____ >>> >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>> On Behalf Of Jack Unger >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:40 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow >>> >>> >>> >>> *** Everybody brings JOY to this list. Some by entering, some by >>> LEAVING >>> *** >>> >>> >>> rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: >>> >>> I'm very, very, very <pruned> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. >> Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Cisco Press Author - >> "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" >> WISPs - Do you know where your customers are? >> For wireless coverage mapping see http://www.ask-wi.com/mapping FCC Lic. >> #PG-12-25133 LinkedIn Profile <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackunger> >> Phone 818-227-4220 Email <jun...@ask-wi.com> >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> WISPA Wants You! 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