There's always, always another option. The affordability or practicality of those options vary.
Education and knowledge of the world at large is certainly cheaper than burying 200 miles of fiber. Not having an easy upstream choice isn't an excuse for not knowing what networks are around you, keeping in contact with them, knowing how the Internet at large works. I'm not sure how current your coverage map is, but Electric Lightwave has a POP in Grand Coulee, which is 20 miles from Wilbur. They may have closer, but their POP names don't necessarily match up with town names. Vision networks in Montana may be of use, but I don't know. they indicate a line going near you, but no POPs specified. Being right near I-90, there has to be a chunk of fiber next to it, just have to do some research to find out whom. ;-) ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 4:05 PM To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WISPA] make sure you are filtering AS48438 right now > roflol > > Oh the arrogance of the well connected! grin > > I'm just twisting your tail Mike. > > But understand something about the reality of things out here. There are > NO > other choices for upstream connectivity. I have ONE provider at three of > my > main sites. Not because I don't want a back up, but because there IS no > other choice. > marlon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 1:22 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] make sure you are filtering AS48438 right now > > >> I'm not saying anything about you personally, John. >> >> However, situations like this are why a lot of people don't take WISPs >> seriously. Everybody here should be doing BGP, or at the very least know >> what it is, how it works, and how large of an impact it has on the whole >> Internet. There were a few responses to this statement indicating that >> people don't know how this system works or how to get current information >> on >> the issue (NANOG, etc.). >> >> There were only a few responses, but I bet you there are dozens or >> hundreds >> of lurkers that don't know either. >> >> You can't run your operation effectively if you don't (or have people to) >> know everything from RF propagation, local demographics, routing, >> government >> policy, etc. >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "John McDowell" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 11:18 AM >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] make sure you are filtering AS48438 right now >> >>> what is that? >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Matt Liotta <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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