----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] make sure you are filtering AS48438 right now
> There's always, always another option. The affordability or practicality > of > those options vary. > > Education and knowledge of the world at large is certainly cheaper than > burying 200 miles of fiber. Not having an easy upstream choice isn't an > excuse for not knowing what networks are around you, keeping in contact > with > them, knowing how the Internet at large works. > > I'm not sure how current your coverage map is, but Electric Lightwave has > a > POP in Grand Coulee, which is 20 miles from Wilbur. It's more than 20 miles in reality. There is also a bit of a mountain in the way. And much of the land out there is government and mostly unavailable for use. > They may have closer, > but their POP names don't necessarily match up with town names. Yeah, and NoaNET has a drop near Creston Wa. But we're based in Odessa, not Creston, Wilbur or Coulee Dam. > Vision > networks in Montana may be of use, but I don't know. they indicate a line > going near you, but no POPs specified. Being right near I-90, there has > to > be a chunk of fiber next to it, just have to do some research to find out > whom. ;-) There is fiber IN town. But there's only 1. And it's Century Tel. There is a lot of fiber south of us (some closer to us than to I-90 even!). But so far I've not found a way to get into it. For some reason AT&T (or whoever owns it now) doesn't like to break into their runs mid span. The upshot of things is that I'm only 9 miles from being able to tie my Grant and Lincoln county networks together. Anyone know how small of a block of IP addys we can get? How do we get them and what is the cost? When I can get them tied together I'll likely run bgp and get my own ip space. That'll help with upstream choices anyway. Renumbering hundreds of customers would suck! laters, marlon > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 4:05 PM > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] make sure you are filtering AS48438 right now > >> roflol >> >> Oh the arrogance of the well connected! grin >> >> I'm just twisting your tail Mike. >> >> But understand something about the reality of things out here. There are >> NO >> other choices for upstream connectivity. I have ONE provider at three of >> my >> main sites. Not because I don't want a back up, but because there IS no >> other choice. >> marlon >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 1:22 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] make sure you are filtering AS48438 right now >> >> >>> I'm not saying anything about you personally, John. >>> >>> However, situations like this are why a lot of people don't take WISPs >>> seriously. Everybody here should be doing BGP, or at the very least >>> know >>> what it is, how it works, and how large of an impact it has on the whole >>> Internet. There were a few responses to this statement indicating that >>> people don't know how this system works or how to get current >>> information >>> on >>> the issue (NANOG, etc.). >>> >>> There were only a few responses, but I bet you there are dozens or >>> hundreds >>> of lurkers that don't know either. >>> >>> You can't run your operation effectively if you don't (or have people >>> to) >>> know everything from RF propagation, local demographics, routing, >>> government >>> policy, etc. >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "John McDowell" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 11:18 AM >>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] make sure you are filtering AS48438 right now >>> >>>> what is that? >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Matt Liotta <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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