I don't know if I'll be able to put some many antennas on the towers.

How close together would I need the towers to prevent the rain fade outage 
at 18 gig?

Aren't there any 5.8 systems that will do this reliably in the first place? 
I shouldn't need 5.x for distribution so I could use it all for backhaul. 
I'll have 2.4, 3.65, 4.9 and hopefully, someday, TVBD for the consumers.
marlon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Webster" <[email protected]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul


> The 5.8 GHz backup links will help you deal with outages due to
> environmental conditions such as rain fade. That has to be factored in for
> links when you operate above 10 GHz. Even if you run a loop configuration
> you could have a fade condition that could block out a whole tower site
> severing your links to that location in both directions of your loop.
> Another path at a lower frequency with spatial diversity from your primary
> link (different mounting heights) would at least keep that site up though
> maybe not at full speed.
>
>
>
> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]on
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:26 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Do you think we need the unlicensed for each hop if the entire network is
> build in a circle?
> marlon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Travis Johnson" <[email protected]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul
>
>
>> Licensed 18ghz links with 5.8ghz backup links for each hop. Figure
>> $15,000 per link for everything.
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I'm looking for some gear that'll be rock solid at 15 to 20 miles.  Some
>>> links may be less, but I'm not counting on that.
>>>
>>> I'll be hauling public safety, private vpns, and normal internet 
>>> traffic.
>>>
>>> I'll probably have around 20 towers, all linked in a ring.  I can load
>>> share
>>> across the ring as long as speeds never drop below 100megs.  I'll want
>>> things to be automatically self healing if there is a loss of
>>> connectivity
>>> in any direction.
>>>
>>> What would you guys use/suggest?
>>>
>>> I'd love to go licensed (but no 6 gig due to antenna sizes) but
>>> unlicensed
>>> may be OK due to the failover capabilities.
>>>
>>> We have to worry about snow, fog and, worst of all, dust storms.
>>>
>>> What gear would you use?  How would you set this up?
>>>
>>> I'm in the pricing stage so off list quotes etc. are welcome.  Pall park
>>> numbers are fine at this time, as long as they tend to run high vs. low,
>>> I'd
>>> rather over estimate the costs.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> marlon
>>>
>>>
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