I don't know, as I understand it Mark was talking about mountain top with extreme elements.
I live on the Oregon Coast, Oregon = lots of rain, the coast, lots of wind and rain. I have been taping for 10 years and must have 2,000 radios hung at least in all that time, and quality rubber tape and a vinyl layer has worked without issue. Heck, I've has two connectors that were untapped for a couple years that when I took them apart, where as dry as a bone and had no problems. One of them, the guys back yard was the ocean and the other a 1/2 mile away. What causes issues is when a person does a bad job tapping. When using tape, you have to stretch the tape and wrap with pressure. loose fitting tape is just asking for trouble. it creates little voids where water will sit and seep in. A tightly pulled rubber tape things out to almost teflon and gets into all the small pours of the joint. A few layers of rubber pulled tight is pretty much fool proof. Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > Anything that's easy to take off also won't hold water out as well.... > > I tried the vinyl tape, rubber tape, vinyl tape thing. Once. It didn't > leak (you go past the vinyl tape by a quarter to a half inch) but I just > couldn't bring myself to do it again. I'd rather take the time to remove > the good stuff than take the time in bad weather to fix the easy stuff. > > Here's the trick to pulling the rubber tape off. Split it (lightly and > carefully so you don't go thought the outer cable jacket) then start peeling > it back with a needle nose pliers. Work from the cut outward, on both > sides, a little at a time. Pretty soon you'll get to the point that you can > just twist the pliers and the whole mess will come off pretty easily. Takes > me about 5 minutes nowadays. > > marlon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:54 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors > WAS:HyperlinkCoax Jumpers > > >> There are two methods I can say work. >> >> Electrical tape the entire thing then cover it in coax seal. The purpose >> of >> the electrical tape is only to "easily" remove all the gunk off of the >> coax >> connector. I personally spend $10 on a new cable and seal then spending >> 15 >> to 30 minutes minimum trying to clean it off. Coax seal does a beautiful >> job of keeping the weather out. The worst part about Ohio weather is that >> we can get a build up of ice and have it melt and freeze within 24 hours. >> Finding how to seal our gear was a difficult task but has been solved. >> >> For the last couple of years we quit using PacWireless enclosures and >> stick >> with the no name brand "2 or 4 n hole enclosure" with ribs and U bolts. >> Coax connectors sealed with a good foot of coax seal, from enclosure to >> the >> factory sealer of the coax cable. No problems in the last year or two >> since >> doing this. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. >> --- Henry Spencer >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Mark Nash <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Is the electrical tape just to hold the coax-seal in place? >>> >>> Mark Nash >>> UnwiredWest >>> 78 Centennial Loop >>> Suite E >>> Eugene, OR 97401 >>> 541-998-5555 >>> 541-998-5599 fax >>> http://www.unwiredwest.com >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "RickG" <[email protected]> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:01 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS: >>> HyperlinkCoax Jumpers >>> >>> >>>> Coaxseal and good electrical tape. LOL, I had one tower where the >>>> pigeons >>>> would peck at the connectors, so I added metal foil tape over the >>>> connection. That took care of that! >>>> -RickG >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Mark Nash <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The only thing we use to seal these connectors is fusion tape from >>>>> GB. >>> I >>>>> can get it from the local hardware store. I suspect that this is a >>>>> problem. >>>>> >>>>> How is everyone sealing connectors on towers? This one particular >>>>> site >>> is >>>>> at 3100ft so it gets wind and cold. Snow & ice on it for a few >>>>> 2-week >>>>> periods per year. Lots of rain during the winter. It's been the >>>>> worst >>> for >>>>> coax failures. >>>>> >>>>> Mark Nash >>>>> UnwiredWest >>>>> 78 Centennial Loop >>>>> Suite E >>>>> Eugene, OR 97401 >>>>> 541-998-5555 >>>>> 541-998-5599 fax >>>>> http://www.unwiredwest.com >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:22 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hyperlink Coax Jumpers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I have used custom made ones from Tessco as well as the pre mades >>> ones >>>>> from >>>>>> Wisp Router and other places. The last few years I have not had >>>>>> any >>>>>> problems though it may have been due to the fact we put so much >>>>>> coax >>> seal >>>>>> around them. Do you seal it with coax seal (or comparable >>>>>> material)? >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>> >>>>>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, >>>>>> poorly. >>>>>> --- Henry Spencer >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Mark Nash <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>>>>> We have had about 6 of these fail in the last few months, whereas >>> prior >>>>> to >>>>>>> that we don't recall a problem. They are 2-ft NM-NM LMR195 >>>>>>> jumpers >>>>> from >>>>>>> Hyperlink. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyone else have a problem? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any recommendations on best source for them? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We normally only use them on backhauls & APs, so when they go bad >>> it's >>>>> a >>>>>>> big frustrating problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark Nash >>>>>>> UnwiredWest >>>>>>> 78 Centennial Loop >>>>>>> Suite E >>>>>>> Eugene, OR 97401 >>>>>>> 541-998-5555 >>>>>>> 541-998-5599 fax >>>>>>> http://www.unwiredwest.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> ------ >>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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