It is published- FCC ULS search. Be sure to look there before trying to 
deploy a 5.4 link next to a 1.4 MW (yes, mega) EIRP weather radar tower 
like I did.


Patrick Shoemaker
Vector Data Systems LLC
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
office: (301) 358-1690 x36
http://www.vectordatasystems.com


Scott Carullo wrote:
> Best solution
> 
> Publish all radar locations and freqs and we avoid like the plauge
> 
> Scott Carullo
> Brevard Wireless
> (321) 205-1100 x102
> 
> On Apr 21, 2009, at 1:14 PM, Tom DeReggi <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net>  
> wrote:
> 
>> Maybe thats why the weather man always get the forcast wrong, those  
>> darn
>> WISPs :-)
>>
>> OK, lets get real... I agree, we should not do anything that we know  
>> will
>> purposely harm radar systems.
>> But the FEDs negotiated teh DFS technical spec for 5-7 years, before  
>> they
>> finally gave it to us.
>> If they didn't get it right, thats not really my doing. nor the WISP
>> industry's. When my network gets interfered with, it is my  
>> responsibilty to
>> go find a solution, and go find the culprit. Why should it be any  
>> different
>> for the radar person? I'm tired of teh double standard that WISPs  
>> are less
>> important than the rest of the world, and therefore should be  
>> expected to
>> take steps far greater than others. Many WISPs provide mission  
>> critical
>> solutions, just as critical as radar in my opinion. For example  
>> WISPs may
>> provide broadband to TV stations that distribute the information to  
>> the
>> public, or the remote scientific communities that interperates the  
>> results.
>> Or to Hospitals and homes of teh elderly, or possible the schools  
>> where our
>> children learn. Etc Etc.  Why are WISPs so less deserving to use  
>> spectrum?
>> Quite honestly I don't believe any spectrum should be allowed to be
>> licensed.
>>
>> A WISPs responsibilty is to comply to the rules, not to monitor  
>> whether
>> radar systems get interference. Thats the responsibilty of the Radar  
>> techs.
>> If the FAA comes knocking at my door saying I'm interfering with  
>> them, I'd
>> be the first person to Immediately stop interfering with them, and  
>> offer
>> full cooperation. (whether legally required or not). They were there  
>> first,
>> and the goal is not to interfere with them. But the burden is on  
>> them to
>> show me the interference exists. And if it takes them 10 people to  
>> track
>> down the interference, all I can say is, I wish I had their budget  
>> to waste
>> on tech labor, because they could have accomplished the task with 1  
>> or 2
>> people (quickly), like WISPs usually do.
>>
>> But what you are right about is FCC compliance. In a situation like  
>> that,
>> its going to get ugly if uncertified gear was used.
>> The FCC was really big on 5.4G legallity of DFS2.
>>
>> I think the FCC would be less harsh on 5.3G, as many 5.3 systems had  
>> been
>> grandfathered, and it would have to be proven whether the WISPs had a
>> grandfathered link, on whether the WISP was acting responsibly. And  
>> 5.3
>> radar users are likely already toleraent of the fact that 5.3 WISP  
>> users are
>> out there, with DFS not being an original requirement of 5.3.  But  
>> with
>> 5.4Ghz, its a totally different animal, there was no legal 5.4  
>> system not
>> supporting DFS.
>> I would find it highly unwise to use a non-certified 5.4Ghz system.
>>
>> I wonder if ANY of the MESH hardware is certified for DFS2  
>> successfully.
>> Such as Tropo? Or if they are all still 5.8 and 2.4 systems?
>>
>>
>> Tom DeReggi
>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gino Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com>
>> To: <sc...@brevardwireless.com>; "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org 
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 11:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question
>>
>>
>>> WE saw this recently here,
>>>
>>> The FCC and FAA sent a crew of about 10 perrsons to hunt down some  
>>> rogue
>>> emissions that were afecting the local FAA Weather Radar.  They were
>>> here for about 2 weeks.
>>>
>>> The local radar operated in 5610, had a rx opening from 5580 to 5640.
>>> The gain of the Weather antenna was 70db and the rx thershold -110,  
>>> so
>>> imagine how a stray radio would interfere!
>>>
>>> They had a field day with local wispa using non FCC DFS Aproved  
>>> gear in
>>> the band!
>>>
>>> They even got some stats on Canopy gear not trigerring correctly to  
>>> the
>>> radar signature!
>>>
>>> They were going to Motorola with the info gathered here
>>>
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
>>> boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Scott Carullo
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 10:52 AM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question
>>>
>>> You don't think your active transmitter can affect their weather  
>>> radar?
>>>
>>> NOT
>>>
>>> Just because they have their gain tuned such that they can't hear a
>>> reflection off a baseball in your area doesn't mean your signal won't
>>> come booming in for them :)
>>>
>>> Mostly weather radar...   And - remember - its just not the news
>>> stations
>>> in your area with radars // military installations, government
>>> establishments, airports, NOAA etc...  the list goes on.
>>>
>>> Scott Carullo
>>> Brevard Wireless
>>> 321-205-1100 x102
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <k...@wavelinc.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 10:46 AM
>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question
>>>>
>>>> Is it military radar or weather radar that operates in these  
>>>> bands? If
>>>> it
>>> is
>>>> weather then we are lucky around here, our county is smack dab in  
>>>> the
>>> middle
>>>> of the "out of range zone" for 3 different weather radars by about  
>>>> 60+
>>> miles
>>>> each. The National Weather Service is really interested in storm
>>>> spotters
>>> in
>>>> this area because of the lack of radar coverage.
>>>>
>>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>>> WAVELINC
>>>> P.O. Box 126
>>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>>> 419-562-6405
>>>> www.wavelinc.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 10:13 AM
>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question
>>>>
>>>> The only good answer to combat DFS is to use directional PTP  
>>>> antennas
>>> with
>>>> good F/B ratios.
>>>>
>>>> I'd give 5.4G back to the FCC in a heartbeat, if they gave us 5.3Ghz
>>>> back
>>>> without DFS and low power requirements.
>>>>
>>>> If you ask me.... Either 5.3 radars or 5.4 radars should be forced  
>>>> to
>>>> upgrade to the other band, and free up the other  :-)
>>>>
>>>> Tom DeReggi
>>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Adam Goodman" <a...@wispring.com>
>>>> To: <sc...@brevardwireless.com>; "WISPA General List"
>>> <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:51 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS Radar Question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I had some trouble with radar (think it was radar) last year.
>>>> Interferences could be from many sources. It sa problem because you
>>>> can't just go sit there for a couple of weeks with a spectrum  
>>>> analyzer
>>>> listening for noise. It would be nice if there was a reasonably  
>>>> priced
>>>> logger. Or with Internet connectivity. All this is probably a pipe
>>>> dream as I have never seen anything with such functionality.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Scott Carullo
>>>> <sc...@brevardwireless.com> wrote:
>>>>> Anyone know of a radio that can just listen passively and scan
>>>>> through channels and report back on radar signals heard on what
>>> frequencies?
>>> That
>>>>> would be a great tool to have to scope out certain areas of  
>>>>> interest
>>> to
>>>>> know ahead of time what radar DFS issues might be present...
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott Carullo
>>>>> Brevard Wireless
>>>>> 321-205-1100 x102
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>>> From: "Blair Davis" <the...@wmwisp.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:30 PM
>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gell Cell?
>>>>>>
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