For me, personally in our area, 3650 is attractive because of the lack of
noise.  We are saturated with 2.4 and 5GHz here, but if I was in an area
with low noise levels in 2.4 and 5Ghz, then I would not see a point in
spending the extra money to deploy 3650 gear.  I personally don't care that
much about WiMax itself, as I tend to agree that a lot of it is marketing
hype.  We have a city-wide (NOT Muni) 802.11 hotspot system that generates a
fair amount of revenue for us with roaming users connecting with their
laptops.  3650 won't do that because I doubt we will be seeing laptops with
built-in 3650 cards anytime soon (though I could be wrong).

You can easily pull 10-20meg through 5.8 gear in low noise, good LOS
environments.  We're doing 10meg in an area that is saturated with 5.8. I'm
looking at 3650 SOLELY because of our noise floor.  If it wasn't for the
noise, I'd keep plugging along hanging Deliberant 2.4 and 5Ghz CPE's all
over the place.  

Ideally, what I'm moving toward is putting 3650 gear in place for my large
backhauls (tower to tower) and for my high-end customers that require higher
availability and are willing to pay a premium price (i.e. businesses that
want to go all VoIP over a 20meg Internet connection), while maintaining my
current networks with their 5Ghz and 2.4 AP locations, although much of the
5Ghz backhaul would be replaced with 3650 gear.     

Anyway, this is just me.  I'm sure a lot of folks have different views and
different opinions though, and maybe there is a purpose and need for Wimax
itself, but for me, I have yet to see what the big deal is.  
  



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Charles Wyble
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:08 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] 3650Mhz and Wimax Vendors

So the recent thread on Wimax was quite interesting. I need to read up 
on the different technologies involved. I believe that a fixed 
deployment is sufficient for many many many needs and markets (wireless 
local loop if you will). If people want mobility/end user wireless they 
can hang an 802.11 AP off the ethernet port of whatever CPE. Wimax 
directly to the end device doesn't make much sense to me, in most 
markets and use cases. Obviously if you are supporting a highly mobile 
workforce (say public sector type stuff) then it makes a lot more sense.

It got me thinking... if one was a new WISP entering an un(der)served 
market, it seems that it would not make sense to deploy standard 802.11 
gear, but rather Wimax gear in 3650Mhz. Is this an accurate assessment?

One particular area that I'm targeting, doesn't have any broadband 
available (other then 3g from Verzion). So they would need to purchase 
CPE anyway, and it wouldn't be anything they could get from Best Buy 
(DSL or Cable modem).

I'm in the process of negotiating access to the excluded areas (in 
Southern California), but it's been slow going. Once I gain access it 
will open up many areas to some sorely needed competition.

So who are the vendors in this space worth considering?
What are peoples experiences with the sales process (both pre and post 
sales engineering)
etc etc.



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