FYI Ben, we are finally fixing ( or fixed ) that issue with running as a
service and now have 
A version for oracle. Sorry tranzeo is 00gly :)

 

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Charles Wyble
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 3:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650Mhz and Wimax Vendors

This is what I'm looking for. Thank you!!

Ben Wiechman wrote:
> We've looked at several different vendors for WiMAX and have been 
> running Alvarion in 2.5GHz for almost 18 months now. Aperto seems to 
> have a decent RF platform, as does Redline and Alvarion. We had two 
> main issues with
> Aperto: ugly Tranzeo CPE and their EMS. Maybe some things have changed 
> by the EMS was required to configure each base station and MS as it 
> entered the network, however ran only on windows and didn't run as a 
> service. So one clown closing the window and your network was dead in 
> the water. Redline appears to have a solid product as well as does
Alvarion.
> 
> As was stated earlier the biggest reason to look at WiMAX is for 
> differentiated services. If voice or a high quality data play is in 
> your business plan it makes sense. If you are suffering from 
> interference issues, and spectrum is becoming much more polluted 
> everywhere, so 3650 does help in that regard.
> 
> With access to 2.5GHz spectrum for us WiMAX was an option we 
> considered purely for the penetration. The bulk of our subscriber base 
> was only accessible using 900MHz access points, and we quickly outgrew 
> the capacity of the Canopy APs we have been using and also are 
> suffering increasingly from interference from a number of sources: 
> RFID, baby monitors, a couple lingering paging companies, GPS 
> correction for farming, saturation due to excessive numbers of Access 
> POints to try to meet bandwidth demands, etc. We also didn't feel that 
> we would be able to offer services other than basic broadband access 
> across the Canopy platform. The 16e standard is valuable for us due to 
> the penetration provided by MIMO and beamforming that are available 
> within the standard. We could care less about the mobility (and added
overhead) but its hard to get one without the other.
> 
> If you've got clean spectrum and are only looking to deploy basic data 
> access WiMAX probably doesn't make sense. If you have access to 
> licensed spectrum, want to deploy differentiated services, or are 
> looking at 3650 WiMAX may make sense. 16d will have less overhead and 
> less cost: the complexities of the mobile platform are not there, nor 
> do you need additional network components like an ASN-GW, and 
> typically provisioning is greatly simplified. The problem you run into 
> on the 16e side is that every vendor is only thinking about Clearwire 
> and not considering the WISP and the price point a WISP is able to
justify.
> 
> Ben Wiechman
> Wisper High Speed Internet
> 
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Pat O'Connor <p...@inlandnet.com> wrote:
> 
>> Anybody use Airspan for Wimax?
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Baird wrote:
>>> It was interesting, but I was hoping for some more first hand 
>>> experience reporting. Essentially the only explanation for improved 
>>> range was a lower noise floor, which isn't a wimax thing, but a 3.65 
>>> thing. I think a lot of the 802.16d/e talk is market speak, I'm 
>>> trying to get through that and establish technical reasons why one or
the other is superior.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Michael Baird
>>>
>>>> So the recent thread on Wimax was quite interesting. I need to read 
>>>> up on the different technologies involved. I believe that a fixed 
>>>> deployment is sufficient for many many many needs and markets 
>>>> (wireless local loop if you will). If people want mobility/end user 
>>>> wireless they can hang an 802.11 AP off the ethernet port of 
>>>> whatever CPE. Wimax directly to the end device doesn't make much 
>>>> sense to me, in most markets and use cases. Obviously if you are 
>>>> supporting a highly mobile workforce (say public sector type stuff)
then it makes a lot more sense.
>>>>
>>>> It got me thinking... if one was a new WISP entering an 
>>>> un(der)served market, it seems that it would not make sense to 
>>>> deploy standard 802.11 gear, but rather Wimax gear in 3650Mhz. Is this
an accurate assessment?
>>>>
>>>> One particular area that I'm targeting, doesn't have any broadband 
>>>> available (other then 3g from Verzion). So they would need to 
>>>> purchase CPE anyway, and it wouldn't be anything they could get 
>>>> from Best Buy (DSL or Cable modem).
>>>>
>>>> I'm in the process of negotiating access to the excluded areas (in 
>>>> Southern California), but it's been slow going. Once I gain access 
>>>> it will open up many areas to some sorely needed competition.
>>>>
>>>> So who are the vendors in this space worth considering?
>>>> What are peoples experiences with the sales process (both pre and 
>>>> post sales engineering) etc etc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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