Care to explain how that is illegal?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Hammett" <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service Limits


> Actually, there was a law passed a couple years ago that prevented this 
> very
> thing.  They cannot stop Verizon, Comcast, Time Warner, Level 3, or Joe's
> Crab Shack Internet Service from installing cables from outside into their
> suite.  They can make it costly and they can make it a PITA, but they must
> allow their installation.
>
> The flip side of this issue is property own only allowing Bob's Telecom,
> which is excessively priced because Bob and Jim (your landlord) are
> brothers.  That is illegal.  Same situation as we're talking about here.
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Brad Belton" <b...@belwave.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:11 PM
> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service Limits
>
>> Hello Mike,
>>
>> Have to step in here and disagree.  Private property.  If they don't want
>> you they can keep you out one way or another.  This may not sit well with
>> some, but it is the proper thing to do.  The market will always sort 
>> these
>> type of issues out themselves without third party or government
>> intervention.
>>
>> This is no different than comparing any property amenity.  Property "A"
>> has
>> XYZ vs. Property "B" doesn't.  Some will find the XYZ amenity important
>> and
>> opt for Property "A" over "B".  If enough people do then you can bet
>> Property "B" will find a way to add XYZ or a comparable amenity.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of John Thomas
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:26 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] Service Limits
>>
>> I realize that is the way it is supposed to happen, but that hasn't
>> happened here.
>> We have Office space in Bishop Ranch, San Ramon CA. We are not allowed
>> in the MPOE, and apparently others aren't either. We have been able to
>> get T-1s pulled in, and then we gave handed the authorized personnel the
>> other end of our Cat 5 to punch down and connect our Service Providers
>> T-1's. When we asked Time Warner about the fiber, they sent us a map,
>> showing fiber at the sidewalk, less than 100 feet away, and they claimed
>> that Bishop Ranch wouldn't lt them in the MPOE, so they couldn't
>> deliver. Maybe someone has bogus information?
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> Mike Hammett wrote:
>>> If you want their service, they can't restrict you, AFAIK.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "John Thomas" <jtho...@quarnet.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:57 PM
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I need a few people to run a bandwidth test
>> tomeplease...> As they say, your mileage may vary....   We have a 2xT1
>> that
>> we pay $560
>>>
>>>> per month for, and the routing/peering at TW Telecom is good, but then
>>>> again, we are in the San Francisco Bay Area. If the building owners
>>>> would have let TW Telecom into this buildings MPOE's we would have a 10
>>>> meg fiber circuit and be paying about $700 for it. The fiber is at the
>>>> curb, but Bishop Ranch won't let TW Telecom in....
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Matt Liotta wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Personally, I wouldn't go with TW Telecom for bandwidth. They tend to
>>>>> be overly pricy and their peering is too selective. In a case where
>>>>> the city you are located in doesn't have good peering such as Orlando
>>>>> you need to carefully select your upstream. In the case of TW Telecom,
>>>>> they have hardly any peers in Atlanta, which is the closest major
>>>>> peering point to you. This causes most of your US based traffic to
>>>>> flow through Ashburn or Dallas.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Matt
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 14, 2009, at 9:48 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just download a file via http from our web server at
>>>>>> http://208.65.55.55/dummy.zip
>>>>>> and then
>>>>>> http://64.128.251.33/dummy.zip
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then email me with how fast each went and a traceroute from you to
>>>>>> just one
>>>>>> of the servers please (they take same route).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are not capable of downloading at 20MB on the Internet then
>>>>>> the data
>>>>>> is not too useful for me...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you I appreciate your time and assistance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scott Carullo
>>>>>> Brevard Wireless
>>>>>> 321-205-1100 x102
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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