Hello Mike, Still doesn't mean the property owner can't keep you out.
Again, bottom line after all is said and done the property owner WILL prevail one way or another. Again, it is his private property and should be this way. If the property "A" doesn't have covered parking, but property "B" does and covered parking is important to you then lease from property "B". This is no different than if a property has Mike's Internet or not. If you desire Mike's Internet then find a property that has Mike's Internet or a property that will allow Mike's Internet to be installed. Otherwise lease elsewhere. If this happens often enough than I guarantee the property owner will find a way to get Mike's Internet, so that they can close on more leasing opportunities. This isn't rocket science. The market always works these issues out in the end. There is no law stating the property owner has to lease to you or renew a tenant lease. So, they may get to hang that DSS dish eye sore off the front of the building on their balcony for a while, but when their lease comes up they'll be gone and so will that dish. In the end the property owner will prevail as they should. You will always attract more bees with honey vs. vinegar. Trying to force yourself into a property citing FCC rules etc, etc will be your first and last mistake with a landlord. Word spreads quickly of such tactics around town and within BOMA. Best, Brad -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service Limits I'd have a more authoritative source, but "The normal FCC website is temporarily unavailable due to technical difficulties. We are working to restore the full FCC website back to normal as soon as possible." Residential telecom was banned on March 21st, 2008. Commercial telecom was banned October 12, 2000. The October 12, 2000 ruling also put fixed wireless under OTARD's umbrella. http://www.wcsr.com/resources/pdfs/telecomm032608.pdf http://www.dlapiper.com/us/publications/detail.aspx?pub=3094 ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom DeReggi" <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 1:30 AM To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service Limits > Care to explain how that is illegal? > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Hammett" <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 12:51 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service Limits > > >> Actually, there was a law passed a couple years ago that prevented this >> very >> thing. They cannot stop Verizon, Comcast, Time Warner, Level 3, or Joe's >> Crab Shack Internet Service from installing cables from outside into >> their >> suite. They can make it costly and they can make it a PITA, but they >> must >> allow their installation. >> >> The flip side of this issue is property own only allowing Bob's Telecom, >> which is excessively priced because Bob and Jim (your landlord) are >> brothers. That is illegal. Same situation as we're talking about here. >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Brad Belton" <b...@belwave.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:11 PM >> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service Limits >> >>> Hello Mike, >>> >>> Have to step in here and disagree. Private property. If they don't >>> want >>> you they can keep you out one way or another. This may not sit well >>> with >>> some, but it is the proper thing to do. The market will always sort >>> these >>> type of issues out themselves without third party or government >>> intervention. >>> >>> This is no different than comparing any property amenity. Property "A" >>> has >>> XYZ vs. Property "B" doesn't. Some will find the XYZ amenity important >>> and >>> opt for Property "A" over "B". If enough people do then you can bet >>> Property "B" will find a way to add XYZ or a comparable amenity. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> >>> Brad >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of John Thomas >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:26 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: [WISPA] Service Limits >>> >>> I realize that is the way it is supposed to happen, but that hasn't >>> happened here. >>> We have Office space in Bishop Ranch, San Ramon CA. We are not allowed >>> in the MPOE, and apparently others aren't either. We have been able to >>> get T-1s pulled in, and then we gave handed the authorized personnel the >>> other end of our Cat 5 to punch down and connect our Service Providers >>> T-1's. When we asked Time Warner about the fiber, they sent us a map, >>> showing fiber at the sidewalk, less than 100 feet away, and they claimed >>> that Bishop Ranch wouldn't lt them in the MPOE, so they couldn't >>> deliver. Maybe someone has bogus information? >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> Mike Hammett wrote: >>>> If you want their service, they can't restrict you, AFAIK. >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "John Thomas" <jtho...@quarnet.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:57 PM >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I need a few people to run a bandwidth test >>> tomeplease...> As they say, your mileage may vary.... We have a 2xT1 >>> that >>> we pay $560 >>>> >>>>> per month for, and the routing/peering at TW Telecom is good, but then >>>>> again, we are in the San Francisco Bay Area. If the building owners >>>>> would have let TW Telecom into this buildings MPOE's we would have a >>>>> 10 >>>>> meg fiber circuit and be paying about $700 for it. 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