Gino,

145', 15 degree VB, 7.7/7.8 puts my -3d at ~5 miles. If my downtilt was 
wrong, I would think it would impact the receive on my CPE's, much more 
then on the tower AP's, maybe that's a poor assumption on my part though.

Regards
Michael Baird
> I think your downtilt is too much, whats your area and tower height?
> The beamwidth of the maxrad sector?
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> g...@aeronetpr.com
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Michael Baird
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:29 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
>
> My sector's are Maxrad adjustable sector's horizontally polarized,
> adjusted to 120/13db, at 7.7 - 7.8 downtilt, trying to cover a 5 mile
> radius.
> Radios, are Ubiquity 400mw radio's, I've turned down to 23/200mw.
> CPE's, are Ubiquity PS2, same radio at 400mw, Horizontal antenna at 18
> dbi.
>
> RSSI at the CPE is great, RSSI at the AP is poor often different by
> 16-20 db.
>
> I also mentioned the RFLinx Qwave lightning arrestors, this is the first
> tower we've used them on.
>
> Regards
> Michael Baird
>
>   
>> I don't think that this would be an antenna location issue.
>>
>> What antennas did you use and where are they pointed?
>>
>> Also, what output are the radios?  If you use 600mw radios on the ap 
>> side and 100 mw radios on the rx side it'll make a difference.
>>
>> Also, having LOW power at the tx is almost always a good idea, 
>> especially when colocated like this.  I usually only run 15 to 17dB at
>>     
>
>   
>> the ap's.  Most of my sectors are 13dB.  Yeah, I have customers at 18 
>> miles with multi meg RELIABLE service this way.  There are other 
>> customers at much shorter ranges that don't get reliable service, but
>>     
> that's caused by other issues :-).
>   
>> We run most of our cpe at pretty high power these days due to the need
>>     
>
>   
>> to blow through the overpowered competition or just over all noise
>>     
> levels.
>   
>> Anyway, what gain are the antennas and where are they pointed?  How 
>> much downtilt etc.
>>
>> How far are the customers from the tower?
>>
>> What polarity are the antennas?  All the same, or did you mix it up?
>>
>> What are the cpe radios?  What power, what antennas etc.
>>
>> If you had a 15 db transmit antenna and a 15 db transmit radio 
>> shooting to a
>> 15 dB panel at 5 miles you should see an rssi of, -83 or so.  Legally 
>> you could have 6 more dB at the AP side giving you around -77 at the 
>> cpe 5 miles out.
>>
>> Hope this helps!
>> marlon
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <m...@tc3net.com>
>> To: <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 1:09 PM
>> Subject: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
>>
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> We've just installed a 3 sector 2.4 setup, at 145' with maxrad 120's.
>>>       
>
>   
>>> I'm noticing the receive sensitivity on the AP's are about 15-20 db's
>>>       
>
>   
>>> different then what I see on the CPE's, tried a Tranzeo/Ubiquity
>>>       
> radio.
>   
>>> I'm using Ubiquity AP's, and they work fine on another 3 sector setup
>>>       
>
>   
>>> I have, however this tower is an A-Frame. The tower owner won't allow
>>>       
>
>   
>>> outside climbers so his guy did it, and he put one on each leg at
>>>       
> 145'
>   
>>> back to back. If the radios were too close together even on different
>>>       
>
>   
>>> channels, would the RX performance on the AP exhibit this behavior? 
>>> Only other change on this tower was RFLinx Quarter-wave arrestors in
>>>       
> line.
>   
>>> If I'm 3-5 miles away I can see on the CPE a RSSI of -65 to -75 for 
>>> example, on the AP the reading would be in the -90 to not even below 
>>> the noise floor.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts would be appreciated as always.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Michael Baird
>>>
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