On the MT customers it's 23dbi panels, way up there. >From this day forward I plan to use only Moto APs. Why do you say it has to be an omni, though?
On 6/19/09, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> wrote: > Well I am using the 5/8 Heliax on some 5ghz PTP shots only. I have not done > any PTMP stuff with it yet. The loss at 5ghz is about 4.5db/100ft. I know > when I did the PTP shots before when I had the radio's mounted up top I was > using 24db panels and once I switched to the HELIAX and the radio's at the > bottom I changed that side to a 29db 2 foot dish and I actually seen the > signals go up a couple db. I would assume you could use it for PTMP but you > may have to switch to a little higher gain antenna on the client end. But I > would rather have a better client antenna anyway than have to worry about > lightning on the main tower so the benefits outweigh the negatives. > > The nice thing with with backhaul radio's being on the ground is if you ever > maxed out a link and needed to move up to some higher throughput radios all > you gotta do is unscrew the coax at the bottom and plug the new radio's in. > :) > > You could do it with canopy also if you are using the connectorized 2.4ghz > AP and a vertical omni. I know the Canopy radio's are $1500 so just saving > from 1 lightning hit is more than worth it. > > Kurt Fankhauser > WAVELINC > P.O. Box 126 > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > 419-562-6405 > www.wavelinc.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 5:52 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MiniPCI Radio Cards > > Awesome! What about the XR5? Or any 5.8 card for that matter? > > We can all agree that this is the better option when you're the one out in > the field, but what about financially? I see that this cable is $600 for > 150 feet. At that price if doing it this way saves me from one lightning > strike, saving one radio, I consider it worth it. If I'm about to deploy a > Canopy 2.4 radio, is this a wise option? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > improbable, must be the truth." > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The 5/8 heliax will work on any freq up to 6.1ghz is the cut-off. >> http://www.midland.ru/products/andrew/pdf/LDF45.pdf >> >> The loss on 2.4ghz is low enough that you can make up for it will the >> higher >> powered XR2 cards and the better receive sensitivity off the XR2 helps out >> also. The nice thing about the loss on your signals makes the noise floor >> go >> down also. :) >> >> Kurt Fankhauser >> WAVELINC >> P.O. Box 126 >> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >> 419-562-6405 >> www.wavelinc.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Josh Luthman >> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 5:23 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MiniPCI Radio Cards >> >> Does that work with 2.4 or 5.8? Or 900? >> >> On 6/19/09, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> wrote: >> > The 5/8 heliax is cheaper and has slightly less loss. I don't use the >> > LMR-900 anymore as it weighs twice as much also. >> > >> > Here is a picture of what you could do with the Heliax :) I just had a >> > lightning storm role by this tower last night which just happens to be > by >> my >> > house. Needless to say I slept like a baby knowing I was not going to >> have >> > to replace any equipment from lightning damage. I sleep a lot better at >> > night now then I use to a few years back... :) >> > >> > Kurt Fankhauser >> > WAVELINC >> > P.O. Box 126 >> > Bucyrus, OH 44820 >> > 419-562-6405 >> > www.wavelinc.com >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> > Behalf Of Josh Luthman >> > Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 10:48 AM >> > To: WISPA General List >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MiniPCI Radio Cards >> > >> > Augh..4 bucks a foot. >> > >> > What's the difference between LMR900 and 5/8 heliax? >> > >> > Josh Luthman >> > Office: 937-552-2340 >> > Direct: 937-552-2343 >> > 1100 Wayne St >> > Suite 1337 >> > Troy, OH 45373 >> > >> > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however >> > improbable, must be the truth." >> > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> >> I have done this with LMR400, I ran 150 foot of LMR400 up a tower and >> put >> > a >> >> 250mw amp at the top. With the choosen antenna I was right at 36db > power >> >> output. It actually worked very well. Just as good or better than > having >> >> the >> >> radio's at the top. It was a cheap way to put your radio's on the >> ground. >> >> BUT the first time the site got a lightning hit again I was screwed :( >> >> >> >> So I quickly figured out the cost of replacing amps after 1 hit that I >> >> could >> >> have spent the extra money on the LMR900 or 5/8 HELIAX and I would have >> >> actually come out cheaper by not going the amped route. >> >> >> >> Kurt Fankhauser >> >> WAVELINC >> >> P.O. Box 126 >> >> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >> >> 419-562-6405 >> >> www.wavelinc.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> >> Behalf Of Josh Luthman >> >> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 10:09 AM >> >> To: WISPA General List >> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MiniPCI Radio Cards >> >> >> >> Is that how we can get 2.4 and 5.8 gear on the ground, with an >> amplifier? >> >> >> >> I would love having the gear inside and just coax and amp and antenna >> >> outside way up there! >> >> >> >> On 6/19/09, Jeremy Parr <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > 2009/6/19 Scott Carullo <[email protected]> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> My first advice is ditch the amp, not necessary and most likely >> illegal >> >> >> power. You can get what you need out of the minipci card. >> >> >> >> >> >> You will want to purchase from US distributor, search for RB411 and >> you >> >> >> should have plenty of options, best one probably close to you so you >> > get >> >> >> them quickly prices are roughly the same everywhere. Titan Wireless >> is >> >> an >> >> >> excellent source of Mikrotik Product and they are good to work with. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > I would like to ditch the amps, and run the radios tower-top, but we >> > have >> >> so >> >> > much lightning here. I'd like to limit towertop equipment to an amp, >> >> since >> >> > its easy to troubleshoot and replace. This will let me locate the >> radios >> >> in >> >> > the shack at the base, and troubleshoot easily without a climb, or 20 >> >> trips >> >> > up and down replacing one bit at a time. 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