5/8" Heliax is the largest diameter you can use for 5.8 GHz.  LDF4.5-50


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-----Original Message-----
From: David Hulsebus <[email protected]>

Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 00:18:39 
To: WISPA General List<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MiniPCI Radio Cards


I've put in Heliax 1/2" through 1 1/2" cable for 900 and 2.4  I've had 
some success with 5.8GHz at less than 100ft, never tried it any further 
either though - it's not within Andrews specs. I believe they provide 
attenuation data to 2.4 GHz.  For 5.8 GHz I use their eliptical Air 
Heliax cable, I first inherited some when we purchased an old fm radio 
station tower. I almost got their 900MHz 8ft dish too, but they wanted 
as a backup for their new tower site as they use it to transmit their 
music to the tower from the station about 20 miles away.

Never lost a radio due to rf issues. It is more up front but protects 
our more expensive transmitters very well and keeps us from climbing 
regularly. I'll put Mikrotik boards on a tower or tank with POE and if I 
loose one I'm  not out thousands. I use external antennas and lightning 
arrestors. We also use APC ethernet surge protectors on all gear at a 
site, once out of the POE towards coming towards the switch and another 
prior to entering the switch port.

Dave Hulsebus

Josh Luthman wrote:
> Does that work with 2.4 or 5.8?  Or 900?
>
> On 6/19/09, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> wrote:
>   
>> The 5/8 heliax is cheaper and has slightly less loss. I don't use the
>> LMR-900 anymore as it weighs twice as much also.
>>
>> Here is a picture of what you could do with the Heliax :) I just had a
>> lightning storm role by this tower last night which just happens to be by my
>> house. Needless to say I slept like a baby knowing I was not going to have
>> to replace any equipment from lightning damage. I sleep a lot better at
>> night now then I use to a few years back... :)
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>> WAVELINC
>> P.O. Box 126
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> 419-562-6405
>> www.wavelinc.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 10:48 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MiniPCI Radio Cards
>>
>> Augh..4 bucks a foot.
>>
>> What's the difference between LMR900 and 5/8 heliax?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
>> improbable, must be the truth."
>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> I have done this with LMR400, I ran 150 foot of LMR400 up a tower and put
>>>       
>> a
>>     
>>> 250mw amp at the top. With the choosen antenna I was right at 36db power
>>> output. It actually worked very well. Just as good or better than having
>>> the
>>> radio's at the top. It was a cheap way to put your radio's on the ground.
>>> BUT the first time the site got a lightning hit again I was screwed :(
>>>
>>> So I quickly figured out the cost of replacing amps after 1 hit that I
>>> could
>>> have spent the extra money on the LMR900 or 5/8 HELIAX and I would have
>>> actually come out cheaper by not going the amped route.
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>> WAVELINC
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>> 419-562-6405
>>> www.wavelinc.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>>> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 10:09 AM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MiniPCI Radio Cards
>>>
>>> Is that how we can get 2.4 and 5.8 gear on the ground, with an amplifier?
>>>
>>> I would love having the gear inside and just coax and amp and antenna
>>> outside way up there!
>>>
>>> On 6/19/09, Jeremy Parr <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>       
>>>> 2009/6/19 Scott Carullo <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> My first advice is ditch the amp, not necessary and most likely illegal
>>>>> power.  You can get what you need out of the minipci card.
>>>>>
>>>>> You will want to purchase from US distributor, search for RB411 and you
>>>>> should have plenty of options, best one probably close to you so you
>>>>>           
>> get
>>     
>>>>> them quickly prices are roughly the same everywhere.  Titan Wireless is
>>>>>           
>>> an
>>>       
>>>>> excellent source of Mikrotik Product and they are good to work with.
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> I would like to ditch the amps, and run the radios tower-top, but we
>>>>         
>> have
>>     
>>> so
>>>       
>>>> much lightning here. I'd like to limit towertop equipment to an amp,
>>>>         
>>> since
>>>       
>>>> its easy to troubleshoot and replace. This will let me locate the radios
>>>>         
>>> in
>>>       
>>>> the shack at the base, and troubleshoot easily without a climb, or 20
>>>>         
>>> trips
>>>       
>>>> up and down replacing one bit at a time. I'm only planning on a 250mw or
>>>> 500mw amp.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
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>>>
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