The RB411's I have been purchasing show input voltage under /system health.

John

Eje Gustafsson wrote:
> I do not believe the new boards does this do they? The RB230's and I think
> as well the RB532 could/would over SNMP report power levels and temps maybe
> the newer boards can't report temp but can report power over SNMP. 
>
> If I didn't understand Scott incorrectly the power supplied out from the
> controller is stabilized so you will either work or your dead. So to use DC
> voltage report you would need a separate board feeding directly of the
> battery and as power on the battery start to drain your NMS would have to
> trigger on a low voltage problem. 
>
> There is another issue here.. That is that the UPS battery is 12V and most
> RB dies or fail when the power goes under 11V. So the window of opportunity
> would be very small. Or am I missing something here? 
>
> / Eje
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Gino Villarini
> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:19 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Cc: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] TP--UPS-DC-12-9
>
> Iirc some mikrotik boards report dc voltage
>
> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>
>
> On Aug 1, 2009, at 3:34 PM, "Eje Gustafsson" <[email protected]>  
> wrote:
>
>   
>> If battery is removed, the power to the radio shuts off. The  
>> controller is
>> powered by the battery. There isn't at this time have a way to  
>> monitor the
>> battery voltage. They're (Tycon Power) working on it but no telling  
>> when
>> they might come up with a solution.
>>
>> I seen some pretty cool devices at ipenabled.com but they are not  
>> cheap.
>> http://www.ipenabled.com/sp2.html
>> http://www.ipenabled.com/dcv.html
>>
>> Don't see or know of any way in MT to have some sort of probe  
>> measurement of
>> DC voltage.
>> One solution which probably is the cheapest one and goes in line  
>> with your
>> Linksys unit would be to bastardize a Bullet2 (the $39 Ubiquiti  
>> device) and
>> either use it with the standard AirOS or load on your own software.  
>> In full
>> TX mode it uses 4watt and I would guess no more than 1watt if the
>> transmitter is disabled unfortunately the exact load levels are not  
>> in their
>> datasheet just the 4watt number.
>> Form factor vise it's as small you're going to get and at a very cheap
>> price. Alternative of course for size would be to use their  
>> MiniStation but
>> then you're talking $79 instead and slightly smaller footprint then  
>> a credit
>> card.
>>
>> / Eje
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]  
>> On
>> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
>> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:32 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are customers increasingly clueless? Or
>> isitgettingbetter?
>>
>> Yeah, I saw that post the other day. That outdoor UPS enclosure has  
>> my name
>> written all over it :-)
>> It should be great for those one radio serves all suites via CAT5,
>> industrial warehouse style, strip mall style roof installs
>>
>> While on topic...Anyone know.....
>>
>> Does that power charger/inverter unit still pass line power to  
>> equipment if
>> the battery goes bad? (inline or standby?).
>>
>> Any good ideas on how to tell when the power goes out? For example,  
>> if a
>> breaker pops, 24 hours later the battery runs dead and still creates  
>> an
>> outage, if you don;t know power was cut.
>> One suggestion made was setup a second cheapo linksys router for  
>> $40, and
>> plug that in NOT on the batterty, and then remote monitor that  
>> device to
>> tell when power is down.
>> Although, with that unit, it might be hard to fit into the case, and  
>> may
>> draw unnecessary current. Any ideas on how to handle that? Do any of  
>> teh
>> Mikroik SBCs have i/o slots that can measure results of a relay or
>> something, to help with that?
>>
>> Tom DeReggi
>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are customers increasingly clueless? Or
>> isitgettingbetter?
>>
>>
>>     
>>> Someone sells those on this list...
>>>
>>>       
> http://www.wlanparts.com/product/TP-UPS-DC-12-9/UPS_Pro__Outdoor_UPS_with_Di
>   
>> e_Cast_Enclosure_12V_9AH.html
>>     
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
>>> improbable, must be the truth."
>>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Tom DeReggi
>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Ryan,
>>>>
>>>> I agree completely, and sympathise for the situation.
>>>>
>>>> But does your customer know that?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tom DeReggi
>>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Ryan Ghering" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 11:51 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are customers increasingly clueless? Or is
>>>> itgettingbetter?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Ohh agreed, redundant upstream is a must. However when a DS3  
>>>>> costs over
>>>>>           
>>>> 10
>>>>         
>>>>> grand a month to get out of this area to a NON-Qwest system ( not
>>>>> including
>>>>> bandwidth ), for true redundancy it makes it not feasible. We are
>>>>> trying
>>>>> to
>>>>> engineer a wireless backhaul out, but its taking some time to do  
>>>>> so.
>>>>> Its
>>>>> funny folks in the extreme rural areas, seem to think that we  
>>>>> WISP's
>>>>> and
>>>>> ISP's should have the same access to bandwidth and pricing as Metro
>>>>> guys
>>>>> do.
>>>>> Yet, my cost per meg plus transport is about 280.00 per meg total,
>>>>>           
>>>> however
>>>>         
>>>>> even in a city like Greeley, Colorado, you can get bandwidth plus
>>>>> transport
>>>>> for around 50.00 a meg or less.
>>>>>
>>>>> Its the burden of being a rural isp.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ohh and the customer still wants 20 meg down 5 meg up for 20  
>>>>> bucks a
>>>>> month,
>>>>> and it damn well better work 24/7 or its the end of the world  
>>>>> lol....
>>>>>
>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Travis Johnson <[email protected]>  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Technically, yes, this was your fault. The customer is paying  
>>>>>> YOU for
>>>>>> service... not qwest. If you can't provide the service  
>>>>>> (regardless of
>>>>>>             
>>>> the
>>>>         
>>>>>> reason), then it's your fault.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In our regional area, the ABC affiliate stopped selling to DISH
>>>>>> Network
>>>>>> last year over the contract price. So if you had DISH (which I  
>>>>>> did),
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> could no longer get ABC at all. This went on for over 6 months.  
>>>>>> Do you
>>>>>> think
>>>>>> everyone was mad at ABC or DISH? DISH is the one that had to start
>>>>>>             
>>>> giving
>>>>         
>>>>>> credits and take all the phone calls.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You HAVE to have at least two separate upstreams or you are just
>>>>>> asking
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> these kind of problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Travis
>>>>>> Microserv
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ryan Ghering wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yesterday, we had a long term upstream outage. Someone in Qwest  
>>>>>> killed
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> ATM upstream and somehow we were getting crosstalk to another  
>>>>>> ATM PVC.
>>>>>> (Don't ask nobody can tell me how this was done).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the mean time customers are calling us screaming that they need
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> net. Our staff politely informs them all day long that this  
>>>>>> isn't a
>>>>>>             
>>>> issue
>>>>         
>>>>>> with us, its upstream. Some customers accept that and move on  
>>>>>> for the
>>>>>> day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However the kicker!! One of our customers which is a dedicated 3  
>>>>>> meg
>>>>>> calls
>>>>>> up and asks, "Are you down" I say yes at this time the internet is
>>>>>> down
>>>>>> due
>>>>>> to a problem with qwest in Denver. The customer says "ok, do you  
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> ETA?" I tell him no not at this time the problem is with qwest not
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> us.
>>>>>> Customer says "ok thanks" and hangs up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not 20 minutes later I get a phone call from the customer, he's  
>>>>>> mad as
>>>>>> hell
>>>>>> and spitting nails. I only caught about 1/2 of what he had said.  
>>>>>> But
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> sounded like. "Your a damn lier, I call qwest, they have NO issues
>>>>>> anywhere.
>>>>>> I want my ****** Net or you can kiss my account goodbye a**hole.."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then he hangs up. ( mind you this is a business customer )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I call him back about an hour later and he says he's canceled. And
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> service from somewhere else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How can this be? How was this my fault?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Customers are irrational and stupid..  Agreed. lol....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:58 AM, Marlon K. Schafer <
>>>>>>             
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>         
>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> roflol
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rick this is a GOOD thing....  Your customers call you for all
>>>>>> problems
>>>>>> because YOU WILL ANSWER THE PHONE!!!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sometimes great service levels suck.  lol
>>>>>> marlon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Rick Kunze" <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:40 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Are customers increasingly clueless? Or is it
>>>>>> gettingbetter?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Customer calls just now.  They ask if the Internet is "having
>>>>>> trouble",
>>>>>> I reply that there are no outages.  She then says she called a  
>>>>>> couple
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> her friends in neighboring towns and they were all down too.   
>>>>>> She asks
>>>>>> if any other people have called today with problems.  I replied
>>>>>> stating
>>>>>> that a day doesn't go by without someone calling with such an  
>>>>>> issue
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I ask her for some details, "any message on the screen?"  She says
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> a message popped up that said, "No Input".  I thought to myself  
>>>>>> for a
>>>>>> minute and replied, "I'm unaware of any Windows message that says
>>>>>> that."
>>>>>> I asked, "This is in Explorer"?  She said, "No, she can't get
>>>>>> Explorer
>>>>>> to run, nothing will run, the monitor is dark and a small  
>>>>>> message on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> blank screen says "No Input."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would have thought that by now more of the general public  
>>>>>> would be
>>>>>> starting to figure some of this out.  It's discouraging to me that
>>>>>> such
>>>>>> an obvious hardware issue resulted in a call to see if the  
>>>>>> Internet is
>>>>>> down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rk  <-------- slapping self in forehead!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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