Someone on the list had a story about causing a panic when a screen with "you didn't pay your bill" was flashed to an early morning employee.
I guess they thought the company was shutting down. Now the page just says: Please contact us. ryan On Aug 12, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Jason Wallace wrote: > Could someone sue for this? > > In a pizza shop in a town I used to live by, there "was a wall of > shame" where they posted all > bounced checks for everyone to see with a little sign at the top > that if your check bounced it > would be posted there until you paid up. I would never do it, but > it was a great incentive! > > Jason > > Jonathan Schmidt wrote: >> >> Yes, Mike, it isn't the same as sending a letter...even if the >> color of >> the envelope is indicative of some situation. Nevertheless, the >> legal >> rules are very strict...nobody but the addressee can open it. >> >> When you put something on every screen on every PC using a >> subscriber's >> account and reveal any financial matter, especially an embarrassing >> one, a >> "hot head" may, when enraged, do all sorts of things...especially >> if the >> mistake isn't theirs (which is a small but possible event). >> >> If you can get the account holder to sign into a Web site with their >> assigned USERNAME and PASSWORD...that's OK and you can exchange >> confidential information. If you can get them to call, that's OK >> ("...can >> I have your name and last 4 digits of your SS#?). >> >> Creating a "gated garden" which allows an immediate click-to- >> restore but >> states that a situation exists that requires the account holder to >> call a >> phone number is OK since it doesn't slander the account holder (maybe >> mistakenly), can verify the account holder, and, if the message >> screen is >> only on port 80 and doesn't stop the VoIP phone from accessing 911, >> etc., >> there is no jeopardy. And, that screen can come more and more >> frequently...maybe every 5 minutes until they call. >> >> ...just a further thought. >> >> . . . j o n a t h a n >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >> boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:27 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Redirect >> >> You're correct with the liability thing... it sucks that people >> sue over >> such petty things. >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Jonathan Schmidt" <jeschm...@jeschmidt.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:38 PM >> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Redirect >> >> >>> There is some potential liability in this. >>> >>> You don't know if friends are visiting and using the >>> computer...or, the >>> subscriber has an Wi-Fi w/o WAP/WEP and others are (potentially >>> accidentally) using it. In any case, you could be slandering the >>> subscriber by calling them deadbeats to other people. >>> >>> It seems more polite to hit them over and over or persistantly >>> with a >>> demand that they contact a phone number to address a problem with >>> their >>> subscription. It also may stop a law suit...a typical response >>> from a >>> real deadbeat. >>> >>> Cutting off the service is an option but it may enrage the person to >>> "never do business with that company again." What you need to do is >>> >> talk >> >>> with them without slandering them. >>> >>> ...just a thought... >>> >>> . . . J o n a t h a n >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >>> boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of sa...@michianawireless.com >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:03 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Redirect >>> >>> Well. We kinda do this now. When a customer get to far out. We >>> manually >>> add a rule to the router at the tower site he is connected to that >>> redirects all his port 80 traffic to a webpage that says >>> basically, "You >>> didn't pay you bill for a long time and you need to contact us and >>> make >>> >> a >> >>> payment to before your web surfing will be available again." Email >>> still >>> works, etc... >>> >>> We will still do that. But what I am trying to accomplish is to >>> have my >>> billing system log into the client as soon as is hits 31+ in the >>> billing >>> system and set a rule on the router board that will now occasionally >>> interrupt the clients web browsing by redirecting them to a page >>> letting >>> them know they are now 31+ past due and offer them the chance to pay >>> >> now. >> >>> If they chose to not pay now, they can just continue with what >>> they were >>> doing. This way they are always in the "know" that they are behind >>> and >>> >> are >> >>> presented with a way to cure that immediately. Again since the >>> client is >>> not way behind I just want the surfing to be redirect occasionally. >>> >>> Next step would be after this is gone on and they hit 40 days the >>> next >>> script would be ran where it redirects all there web traffic >>> >> indefinitely >> >>> to the pay your bill page until paid. >>> >>> I hope that explains it better. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> John >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Chuck Profito" <cprof...@cv-access.com> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:45:59 AM GMT -05:00 Columbia >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Redirect >>> >>> Why not just a redirect of all port 80 traffic on that ip at 60 >>> days, to >>> the 'Gracious Offer' page, "If you call in the next seven days >>> there >>> >> will >> >>> be no reup fees, please see your e-mail!", Or maybe just redirect >>> them >>> >> to >> >>> a Web Mail Portal sign in page... then 7-14 days later it ALL gets >>> >> turned >> >>> off including cancellation fees, if any. >>> >>> >>> Chuck Profito >>> 209-988-7388 >>> CV-ACCESS, INC >>> cprof...@cv-access.com >>> Providing High Speed Broadband >>> to Rural Central California >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >>> boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson >>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 6:05 PM >>> To: 'WISPA General List' >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Redirect >>> >>> Yepp bit expected. Because a web page consists of multiple images >>> most >>> >> of >> >>> the time and if you use every nth you never know if that rule will >>> then >>> hit a icon, text page or picture file that is retrieved. >>> >>> You could setup something that uses the hotspot service and the >>> advertisement banners. Or I created a solution with Gatespot that >>> when >>> >> the >> >>> user login to the hotspot will redirect them to a messaging system >>> that >>> will display any messages to the user if there are any and if there >>> >> isn't >> >>> then the user will get their original requested webpage just like >>> >> normal. >> >>> / Eje >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >>> boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of sa...@michianawireless.com >>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 7:24 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik Redirect >>> >>> What I am attempting to do is setup a script to put on the client >>> routerboard when there account becomes 30+ days behind. This >>> script will >>> occasionally redirect the clients web browser to a notice page >>> that lets >>> them know there account is past due and offer a payment page. If >>> they >>> refresh they should be able to continue browsing. This is intended >>> to be >>> multipurpose, informative to the user in case they forgot to pay, >>> offer >>> >> a >> >>> quick way to get caught up and be a tad annoying until paid. >>> >>> I tried this experiment on my home connection: >>> >>> 0 X chain=dstnat action=dst-nat to-addresses=1.2.3.4 to-ports=80 >>> protocol=tcp src-address=0.0.0.0/0 dst-address=!1.2.3.4 dst- >>> port=80 >>> nth=5,1 >>> >>> Really did not work as planned. Occasionally I would get the page >>> at the >>> 1.2.3.4 server but most of the time I would get broken links and >>> >> partially >> >>> displayed pages? >>> >>> John Buwa >>> Michiana Wireless >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> -- >>> ---- >>> WISPA Wants You! 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