Brad Belton wrote:
> Hello Bret,
>
> You missed the point about the biggest proponents of Cogent are those that
> only have Cogent....<silence>...
>   
We prepend our other peers, because Cogent has been the most stable and 
latency/jitter the lowest. So I don't get you point...
> I'm not a Cogent basher as we have a Cogent GigE feed too and at times have
> depended on it, but I among many, many others do not consider Cogent as an
> equal to a variety of other providers.  I'm not making this up it's just a
> well known fact.  '
>   
But you are bashing them. Besides they all have their skeletons and I've 
been involved with many of them on those skeletons. Recently had to stop 
announcing routes to AT&T because of continuous route flaps. Try to get 
a hold of someone at AT&T who has 1/2 clue.
> Cogent gets "de-peered" with others on a far more frequent basis than any
> other "major" provider.  Just Google "cogent depeered" vs. "abovenet
> depeered" or "level3 depeered".  There is no comparison.
>   
Does this fall into the category of "If its on the Internet is must be 
true"? :). I won't disagree that Cogent seems to get depeered more often 
recently with Sprint last year, but if Cogent is taking business away 
from the other tier providers, I could see some of them trying to flex 
their muscles by pulling the depeering card.

But I guess if you want to bash Cogent, I haven't been happy with how 
they are handling IP6 right now.
> So, what are you going to do when your customers are calling asking why they
> can't get to a particular site?  All because you're caught up in some
> pissing match between carriers.  I know our clients don't care what the
> reason is, they are more interested in what we're going to do to fix it.  If
> Cogent is all you got then you're SOL!
>   
Regardless of our point of views, if you anyone is going to offer 
Internet services to customers, you should never have just one upstream 
connection.

Additionally I find too many people have opinions of a provider based on 
there personal experience in a particular region. Cogent works great out 
of the Boston NAP and I know numerous other providers who would state 
the same. Maybe in you location that's not true.

Bret



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