This won't work because if the dsl provider is down somewhere within their network the dsl modem will still answer ping requests on the local interface.
Jerry Richardson wrote: > It's also likely the gateway doesn't change, just the IP address. Ping the > gateway on WAN1 and if it stops responding activate WAN2 > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 3:01 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] suggestions for dual wan dhcp auto fail over > > That's a good idea - find an IP only responsive on that network. I think > DNS servers will respond to pings (but not DNS queries) off network. Test > it with dig/ping. I can tell you if it works from my network if you share > the IP. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." > --- Albert Einstein > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Jerry Richardson > <jrichard...@aircloud.com>wrote: > > >> just ping the DSL provider's DNS server. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Data Technology >> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:46 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] suggestions for dual wan dhcp auto fail over >> >> Yes the dsl modem is handing out a dhcp address. I figure I will have >> to ping way back upstream to check the connection vs just pinging the >> dhcp modem. >> I was thinking that if I just change the distance value to a higher >> value then I could leave the interface up and nat should use the route >> with the lowest distance value. (not tested yet) >> Then I could ping with a source address of the dsl interface and it >> should go out the dsl line even though the distance is set higher than >> the backup. (not tested yet) >> >> Dennis Burgess wrote: >> >>> There are other things to also keep in mind when dealing with DHCP, i.e. >>> is your DHCP being handed out locally. sSo if you have a DSL line is >>> the DSL modem handing this out? if so, then watching that connection is >>> useless, you will have to do some policy based routing and checks to >>> verify that it is up and bring it down if it is not up. >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------- >>> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer >>> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org >>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services >>> WISPA Vendor Member >>> Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net >>> LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training >>> Author of "Learn RouterOS" >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:21 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] suggestions for dual wan dhcp auto fail over >>> >>> Lucky you, glad you could have 3.x everywhere! >>> >>> I could be wrong as it may just be my experience, but the command line >>> for >>> custom things is necessary as the GUI doesn't show everything. I >>> started >>> with GUI and moved a lot to CLI as it seems easier/faster. Hopefully >>> it's >>> simply a personal preference! >>> >>> There are places like wireless where the GUI is almost required as the >>> CLI >>> is difficult to navigate and may not even have some values. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >>> --- Albert Einstein >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Data Technology <w...@dtisp.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Yeah, when I looked at the article you listed it clicked. I don't use >>>> the command line except when I have to so I was a little off on the >>>> command to change the distance setting. >>>> >>>> I have version 4.3 so that should not be a problem. >>>> I've been using MT for several years but I have gotten past the 2.9.x. >>>> I think oldest is 3.25. >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> First one is definitely not going to work. >>>>> >>>>> Second one is what you need =) >>>>> >>>>> Do keep in mind you need 3.11+. If you're new to Mikrotik there is >>>>> >>>>> >>>> little >>>> >>>> >>>>> reason to be concerned, but some users such as myself still have >>>>> >>>>> >>> 2.9.50 >>> >>> >>>> or >>>> >>>> >>>>> 51 stuff! >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >>>>> --- Albert Einstein >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Data Technology <w...@dtisp.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>>> Josh, >>>>>> That is what I was trying to do but I was trying to use "/ip route >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> set >>> >>> >>>>>> ether1 distance=3" instead of "/ip dhcp-client set ether1 >>>>>> default-route-distance=3". >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> LaRoy >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> This might help you >>>>>>> http://stfunoo.be/?p=268 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I like using route distance since 3.11 DHCP can do it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It has worked very well for me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >>>>>>> --- Albert Einstein >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Data Technology <w...@dtisp.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sounds too easy :) I'll give it a try. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> LaRoy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> e...@wisp-router.com wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just change the nat to use the other public ip since your >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> already >>> >>> >>>>>>>> masquerading just change that rule to src-nat and set the public >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> ip to >>> >>> >>>>>>>> src-nat to. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> /Eje >>>>>>>>> ------Original Message------ >>>>>>>>> From: Data Technology >>>>>>>>> Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org >>>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>>>>> ReplyTo: WISPA General List >>>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] suggestions for dual wan dhcp auto fail over >>>>>>>>> Sent: Dec 1, 2009 15:30 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am trying to configure an rb450 v4.3 to connect to 2 different >>>>>>>>> providers with dhcp using 1 as the primary and the other as a >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> backup. >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> I would like it to switch over to the backup if the primary >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> service >>> >>> >>>> is >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> down. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I want to nat local users to either service. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I assume I will need to use netwatch to check the servcie >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> availability >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> so I can check all the way thru the providers service and not >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> just >>> >>> >>>> the >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> local physical connection. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The question is what do I need to do when the primary goes down? >>>>>>>>> I thought I could just change the distance on the route but I >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> found >>> >>> >>>> out >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> it will not let you change the distance if the default route is >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> set >>> >>> >>>> by >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> the dhcp-client. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have looked at some of the examples on the wiki but they all >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> use >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> static ip address and I am wanting to use dhcp. >>>>>>>>> Anyone have any pointers? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> LaRoy McCann >>>>>>>>> Data Technology >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> -------- >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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