lol. I beat ya to it! hahaha ----------------------------------------------------------- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training Author of "Learn RouterOS"
-----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 5:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] suggestions for dual wan dhcp auto fail over Unless it's a Modem/router it's not the gateway - it's just converting DSL to Ethernet. -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Data Technology Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 3:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] suggestions for dual wan dhcp auto fail over This won't work because if the dsl provider is down somewhere within their network the dsl modem will still answer ping requests on the local interface. Jerry Richardson wrote: > It's also likely the gateway doesn't change, just the IP address. Ping the gateway on WAN1 and if it stops responding activate WAN2 > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 3:01 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] suggestions for dual wan dhcp auto fail over > > That's a good idea - find an IP only responsive on that network. I think > DNS servers will respond to pings (but not DNS queries) off network. Test > it with dig/ping. I can tell you if it works from my network if you share > the IP. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." > --- Albert Einstein > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Jerry Richardson > <jrichard...@aircloud.com>wrote: > > >> just ping the DSL provider's DNS server. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Data Technology >> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:46 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] suggestions for dual wan dhcp auto fail over >> >> Yes the dsl modem is handing out a dhcp address. I figure I will have >> to ping way back upstream to check the connection vs just pinging the >> dhcp modem. >> I was thinking that if I just change the distance value to a higher >> value then I could leave the interface up and nat should use the route >> with the lowest distance value. (not tested yet) >> Then I could ping with a source address of the dsl interface and it >> should go out the dsl line even though the distance is set higher than >> the backup. (not tested yet) >> >> Dennis Burgess wrote: >> >>> There are other things to also keep in mind when dealing with DHCP, i.e. >>> is your DHCP being handed out locally. sSo if you have a DSL line is >>> the DSL modem handing this out? if so, then watching that connection is >>> useless, you will have to do some policy based routing and checks to >>> verify that it is up and bring it down if it is not up. >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------- >>> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer >>> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org >>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services >>> WISPA Vendor Member >>> Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net >>> LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training >>> Author of "Learn RouterOS" >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:21 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] suggestions for dual wan dhcp auto fail over >>> >>> Lucky you, glad you could have 3.x everywhere! >>> >>> I could be wrong as it may just be my experience, but the command line >>> for >>> custom things is necessary as the GUI doesn't show everything. I >>> started >>> with GUI and moved a lot to CLI as it seems easier/faster. Hopefully >>> it's >>> simply a personal preference! >>> >>> There are places like wireless where the GUI is almost required as the >>> CLI >>> is difficult to navigate and may not even have some values. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >>> --- Albert Einstein >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Data Technology <w...@dtisp.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Yeah, when I looked at the article you listed it clicked. I don't use >>>> the command line except when I have to so I was a little off on the >>>> command to change the distance setting. >>>> >>>> I have version 4.3 so that should not be a problem. >>>> I've been using MT for several years but I have gotten past the 2.9.x. >>>> I think oldest is 3.25. >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> First one is definitely not going to work. >>>>> >>>>> Second one is what you need =) >>>>> >>>>> Do keep in mind you need 3.11+. If you're new to Mikrotik there is >>>>> >>>>> >>>> little >>>> >>>> >>>>> reason to be concerned, but some users such as myself still have >>>>> >>>>> >>> 2.9.50 >>> >>> >>>> or >>>> >>>> >>>>> 51 stuff! >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >>>>> --- Albert Einstein >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Data Technology <w...@dtisp.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>>> Josh, >>>>>> That is what I was trying to do but I was trying to use "/ip route >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> set >>> >>> >>>>>> ether1 distance=3" instead of "/ip dhcp-client set ether1 >>>>>> default-route-distance=3". >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> LaRoy >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> This might help you >>>>>>> http://stfunoo.be/?p=268 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I like using route distance since 3.11 DHCP can do it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It has worked very well for me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >>>>>>> --- Albert Einstein >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Data Technology <w...@dtisp.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sounds too easy :) I'll give it a try. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> LaRoy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> e...@wisp-router.com wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just change the nat to use the other public ip since your >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> already >>> >>> >>>>>>>> masquerading just change that rule to src-nat and set the public >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> ip to >>> >>> >>>>>>>> src-nat to. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> /Eje >>>>>>>>> ------Original Message------ >>>>>>>>> From: Data Technology >>>>>>>>> Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org >>>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>>>>> ReplyTo: WISPA General List >>>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] suggestions for dual wan dhcp auto fail over >>>>>>>>> Sent: Dec 1, 2009 15:30 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am trying to configure an rb450 v4.3 to connect to 2 different >>>>>>>>> providers with dhcp using 1 as the primary and the other as a >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> backup. >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> I would like it to switch over to the backup if the primary >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> service >>> >>> >>>> is >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> down. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I want to nat local users to either service. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I assume I will need to use netwatch to check the servcie >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> availability >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> so I can check all the way thru the providers service and not >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> just >>> >>> >>>> the >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> local physical connection. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The question is what do I need to do when the primary goes down? >>>>>>>>> I thought I could just change the distance on the route but I >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> found >>> >>> >>>> out >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> it will not let you change the distance if the default route is >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> set >>> >>> >>>> by >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> the dhcp-client. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have looked at some of the examples on the wiki but they all >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> use >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> static ip address and I am wanting to use dhcp. >>>>>>>>> Anyone have any pointers? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> LaRoy McCann >>>>>>>>> Data Technology >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> -------- >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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