"When the Constitution is called "No longer relevant to a modern society" on the floor of the House of Representatives and there is no uproar over it"
As I said before, I've stopped paying too much attention to the news. Did that really happen? If so, I believe the real problem is that there was no uproar from we the people over it. Paul C Diem pcd...@foxvalley.net -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 2:07 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance It's because it started out as a good idea but the ones with the cash and who are looking to protect their slice of our cash as well as enhance it, (Insurance companies), have been allowed to trade policy for dollars. It all comes down to one thing, cash. He who has the most cash wins. It's not supposed to be that way but unfortunately as long as the ones who are benefiting from all that cash are the ones who are sitting in both houses this is what we will have. No matter what your politics may be, dollars do not make good policy. We can all "Vote the bums out" but the reality is that we only get new bums. Until the system of cash for votes is wiped out it will only get worse and we are seeing it escalating more and more each year. Tend to the issue of WHY we are stuck with this power to the dollar and then we can work on getting it back to power to the people. When the Constitution is called "No longer relevant to a modern society" on the floor of the House of Representatives and there is no uproar over it, "There's your sign!" Had to throw my 35 cents in. (It's no longer 2 cents, had to raise the price due to the economy. A guy has to eat, ya know.) Bob- -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 2:48 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance If the current draft now says you can't be jailed for not paying this particular tax/fine then ok, but that's not the way it was written earlier. I wouldn't be surprised if this is flipped back...sooner or later. Regardless, the government is forcing you to buy something from them at a price they determine with services they see fit. Doesn't sound like a good idea to me... Brad -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:57, Brad Belton <b...@belwave.com> wrote: > While I haven't read the entire 2000+ page proposed bill I apparently > have read more of it than you. Clearly not, or else you'd know that the "fine" actually is just a tax penalty, and that the current draft of the Senate Finance Committee bill actually includes an explicit provision saying the exact opposite (i.e. you explicitly cannot be jailed for failure to pay this specific tax). http://www.factcheck.org/2009/11/imprisoned-for-not-having-health-care/ Don't get me wrong, the bill still is a travesty, but that's because it doesn't go far enough in providing effective health care to tens of millions of Americans. David Smith MVN.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
