I submitted my information to them, actually exports of RM.  Gerard
introduced him to RM, but didn't train him by any means.  We may have
benefited from people searching for our service from them, but they have
long been gone in our area and their loss of coverage maps has had no
impact on new signups.

Another issue I have with them, KY paid millions to them for the mapping
project.  It was live during the time the contract was active.  Now that
it is not, the data is gone and they won't let anyone access the
mapping.  So 2 years of work down the drain.  The maps were largely
inaccurate, but it had other census data, public utility data, and other
things that was interesting to look at. 

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Webster
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation

The way connected nation has to abide by the broadband mapping grant
rules,
is quite different from the way they have operated on past projects. The
recent threads about them were based on the fact that they appear to
have a
clueless person using Radio Mobile to generate WISP coverage maps. One
person had said they were allowed to submit their own Radio Mobile maps
to
the state rather than have them create the RF plots. I would recommend
that
as a WISP you generate your own coverage maps (or hire someone to do
that
for you..shameless plug) and submit those results.

Remember all of these state mapping projects will become the national
broadband availability map. Consumers will use this as a tool to search
for
service. If you don't participate you will not get the benefit of that
free
marketing engine. Also you will have people applying for more grant
money in
your own service area should you be the only one servicing that
location.
Once these official maps are published there will not be any challenge
process, rightfully so I might add. If you don't want to participate in
letting people know where broadband exists, why should you be allowed to
try
and stop someone who is willing to tell consumers where they can get
broadband.

Thank You,
Brian Webster



On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote:

> Bad for us.  They pushed WildBlue and HughesNet over us because
> WB/Hughes paid them $10k to be a partner.  They also provided the
> mapping for Bellsouth/ATT and Insight (cable co) and identified the
> areas that they should serve.  In my guestimate, it hurt us to the
tune
> of 50-150 customers.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck Hogg
> Shelby Broadband
> 502-722-9292
> ch...@shelbybb.com
> http://www.shelbybb.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 2:30 PM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: [WISPA] Connected Nation
>
> Has anyone determined whether Connected Nation is good or bad for us?
>
> My state hired them for the map, but I don't want to respond with any
> information if the things I heard in the past are still true.  I don't
> remember the points, I just remembered that they were bad news, so to
> avoid them.  They sent me an NDA, but I never really read any of that
> stuff anyway.  Most any contract is about as effective as a paper bag
> holding water.
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
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