Tom Do you have any Ubiquity AirMac in production?
Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Dec 29, 2009, at 8:15 PM, "Patrick Leary" <ple...@apertonet.com> wrote: > In our case, the numbers are about $20k for three sectors yielding an > aggregate of about 60 mbps net for that cell. With WiMAX scheduling > and > our QoS, you could realistically connect well over 600 CPE in that > cell. > The sweet spot remains commercial, especially when implementing a > double > play of voice and data, so you can generate high ARPU. > > > Patrick Leary > Aperto Networks > 813.426.4230 mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > Behalf Of Tom DeReggi > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:00 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear > > I hate to sabatage this 3650 thread, but I cant help myself, when > 802.16e is mentioned for PtMP.... > > 1) Ubiquiti Mimo AP - $89, capacity up to 150 mb, (or maybe 50mbps > might be more fair, for avg 20 Mhz channel 2x pole). > > 2) Mikroik AP MIMO- $400, capacity: same as Ubiquiti, but with > Spectrum > Analysis, and a bit of hassle added. > > 3) Wimax 802.16e AP (1 antenna) - $9000, capacity: more efficient > use of > 25 mbps. > > 4) Wimax 802.16d AP - ?? $2000 - $7000 ??, capacity: same as Legacy > TDD > OFDM, or CDMA OFDM if small channel in 3.65G. > > 5) Legacy TDD OFDM- $1800, up to 25 mbps. Better management than wifi > > 6) Legacy CDMA OFDM AP- $300, capacity like 14 mbps. > > 7) Legacy DSSS TDD - $1300, 10mbps > > > In the transition from Legacy to next adjacent generation, the > decissions might have been tough. I get it, when some justified WiMax. > > But as we jump to the current day, represented at the top of the chart > with items #1 and #2, it is almost silly to even see 802.16e in the > line-up. > > Ubiquiti offers 1/100th the price, at 2x to 6x higher capacity than > Wimax, dependant on how you look at it. > > Lets get real, will a WISP still consider Wimax-e, just to get a few > feature enhancements, that is if they were to use their OWN money? > Sure, we might choose WiMax for a grant, when WiMax will help prove > "Never able to reach profitabilty, without aid". But thats a different > game. > > Now, we also have to consider, just about all carriers other than > Sprint, has preferred and will choose LTE. Its inevidable that LTE > will > extinguish the 802.16e carrier market, so we cant even argue 802.16e > will help our exit strategy, anymore. > > Dont misunderstand me, I dont doubt WiMax's technology. Its good > stuff. > > So my question is, when will 802.16e manufacturers admit their > original > target market, game plan, and price list is ancient history? > > Will recent industry developments force WiMax 802.16e carriers to > lower > their price points down to the levels that are in line with the WISP > market's expectations? > Surely, its technically possible to reach those price points, Ubiquiti > proved that, even if with Wifi chipsets. Arguably, Intel could reach > the same scale with 802.16e instantly, if manufacturers lowered the AP > cost to sub $2000. > > Will the BTOP/BIP program prevent price drops? Why lower price, when > Grant programs could keep the price high for atleast 3 more years, > beyond what the private funded operators would normally allow? > > Ubiquiti has set the bar high for our industry, and has got to be the > largest disruptive force to the ISP industry since Cogent drove > transit > low cost. > > Wimax has a challenge in front of them. They lost the carrier market, > and if you ask me, they'll lose the WISP market to, if they dont lower > their price and up their game. > > I agree, WISPs would rather a full featured WiMax product, but when > its > being compared against a $90 product that is like Wifi on steroids, > its > a new game. > I predict there will be numerous manufacturers this year filling the > market that Mikrotik is currently leading the effort to tackle. > > Its the markets where its realized that a $99 AP is not necessary, and > compromises like giving up spectrum analysis cant be accepted, but > where > manufacturers will challenge themselve to see how close to the price > point they can get, without compromising advanced features. > > History showed us that Consumers will choose Linksys over Cisco. > Eventually Cisco realized they had to become Linksys, in some > capacity. > > > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > > --- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > WISPA Wants You! 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