the equivalent would a x86 based mikrotik with 9 mini-pci slots (3 each for 2.4, 3.65, and 5.8), 4 gigbit wired interfaces, a gbic port, and running the dude
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Patrick Leary <ple...@apertonet.com> wrote: > Personally, I prefer my 4-door Wrangler with my custom roof rack. I can > go anywhere, carry the kids and stuff, drop the top, pull my trailer > with bikes and camping gear AND carry my kayaks. Try that in a Porsche > or Corvette! ...the wireless equivalent? Idunno...maybe an old Freewave > 900 MHz hopper? > > > Patrick Leary > Aperto Networks > 813.426.4230 mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Gino Villarini > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:25 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear > > Funny > > But I would say Im very satisfied with my current BMW > > Gino A. Villarini > g...@aeronetpr.com > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > 787.273.4143 > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of 3-dB Networks > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:04 AM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear > > Sorry I saw this on CNN and it made me laugh > > http://money.cnn.com/2009/12/30/autos/GM_Corvette_recall.cnnw/index.htm > > Daniel White > 3-dB Networks > http://www.3dbnetworks.com > dan...@3-db.net > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:33 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear > > I'd say it'd be more like comparing a Corvette with a Porsche... in the > > right hands in many cases, a Corvette will beat the Porsche, but the > Porsche > > is 35x more expensive. > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Gino Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:01 PM > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Cc: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear > >> Tom >> >> ROTFL >> >> You can't compare a ubiquiti to a motorola 16e >> >> That's like comparing a Yugo with a Porsche >> >> Sent from my Motorola Startac... >> >> >> On Dec 29, 2009, at 9:00 PM, "Tom DeReggi" <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net> >> wrote: >> >>> I will admit, Moto has made a name for itself as a company that is >>> here for the long haul. >>>> From that perspective, its always excitign to learn about new Moto >>>> products >>> on their way. >>> >>> No problem with the $350 CPE level. >>> >>> But, I'd argue $3500 AP is still way to high, even for 802.16e MIMO. >>> >>> The truth is, we all know the cost to make a MIMO device hardware is >>> not that much more than to make legacy non-MIMO, or I should say, >>> very insignificant compared to the market value of the higher >>> capacity. >>> Its all >>> opportunity mark up. (Sure MIMO takes more processor power, more >>> antennas, etc, but those things are likely obtainable cheaper today >>> than their legacy components were when they were designed). >>> >>> I'd also argue that RF speed/price is similar to Computer CPU speed/ > >>> price concepts. 50 mbps today is equivelent in value to what 10mbps >>> was to us 5 years ago. Therefore price points should not exceed the >>> cost of 10mbps 5 years ago, for the WISP to get a break even on the >>> new technology. >>> This is >>> from both the perspective of consumer's demand for higher speeds, as >>> well as technology advancement. >>> >>> I'd pose the same arguements.... >>> >>> Ubiquiti AP $99. vs Moto AP $3500. Paying 35x more for an AP is a >>> tough >>> call. >>> >>> Dont get me wrong, I've always been in favor of higher cost AP, > simply >>> because it discourages putting them up unnecessarilly to create > noise, >>> before they are needed, and discourages harry high school kid from >>> calling themselves a WISP with one paycheck from McDs. >>> >>> But I'd argued Moto would need to beat the current Canopy Advantage >>> line AP cost in order to make a big splash in the market. >>> >>> Tom DeReggi >>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "3-dB Networks" <wi...@3-db.net> >>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:39 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear >>> >>> >>>> Everytime I see that pricing it makes me cringe... since I've seen >>>> Moto give pricing way before a product is actually set to release >>>> and its way off the mark. I hope it's right for Moto sake :-) >>>> >>>> Daniel White >>>> 3-dB Networks >>>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com >>>> dan...@3-db.net >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >>>> boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:07 PM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear >>>> >>>> Soon as in q1 or q2 >>>> >>>> IIRC >>>> $350~ SM >>>> $3500~ AP >>>> >>>> Specs are in the website under 320 series >>>> >>>> Sent from my Motorola Startac... >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 29, 2009, at 6:50 PM, "Tom DeReggi" >>>> <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> moto >>>>> >>>>> Did you mean they are comming out with soon? or did you really mean > >>>>> they are talking about comming out with? >>>>> >>>>> In WISP time, there is a big difference. >>>>> >>>>> Yeah, it would be cool if that was comming in the near future at >>>>> current Canopy level price points. >>>>> But that is an if. >>>>> >>>>> Tom DeReggi >>>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >>>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Gino Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com> >>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>> Cc: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 5:05 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Less? >>>>>> >>>>>> Moto is comming out with a 16e system with 4.5 bits per hz using >>>>>> mimo >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my Motorola Startac... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 29, 2009, at 4:45 PM, "Patrick Leary" > <ple...@apertonet.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Why is your basic criteria .16e with MIMO (or .16e at all)? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All .16e gets you in 3.65 GHz is much more (30% more) latency, >>>>>>> less throughput per MHz, higher overhead and more cost. And you >>>>>>> won't get any hope for interoperability, indoor modems, USB >>>>>>> dongles or PC > cards, >>>>>>> since >>>>>>> those are only applicable to licensed bands. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Patrick Leary >>>>>>> Aperto Networks >>>>>>> 813.426.4230 mobile >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >>>>>>> boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:22 AM >>>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Wimax gear >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We are looking for some more wimax gear to test for the 3.65 > band, >>>>>>> our >>>>>>> basic criteria would be 802.16e/mimo, we've tested Alvarion gear >>>>>>> already. We are looking for something that will work in an urban >>>>>>> environment with self install radios, can deliver voice and if >>>>>>> possible with PPP/NAT/DHCP in the radio rather then as an >>>>>>> external gateway device. 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