Brad,

>  People are losing their homes.many of
> which never should have been afforded the privilege of home ownership if 
> it
> were not for big government forcing lenders to lend to unqualified buyers.

You had me, until the above paragraph.  That is a crock of ShXX.

Most housing foreclosures are conscious business decissions by the middle 
class, to improve their finance and cash flow. They ask, Is it worth 
continuing to sink money into this bad investment losing money?  I will say 
that there are a shortage of buyer. So when an investor cant offload their 
losing investment (House) to someone else, they resort to less ethical 
choices.
What does someone do if their house jsut lost 50k in value? IF they go to 
foreclosure, they can pretty much live rent free for a year in their home, 
before they are forced out. If they put their rent check in hidden savings 
instead, they earn 50k that year. That combined with gettting out of a loan 
taht is valued at mor ethan the house, it is a net $100k earning, for doing 
nothing. They learn they can earn more losing their home than some people do 
holding on to their home as an investment to resale.

And governments were not the ones forcing lenders to lend. Its the 
opposite.... Government regulation is unnecessarilly setting regulations to 
make buying harder for consumers, to address a problem that didn't exist.

Some People loose homes because.... a home is a 30 year commitment, and its 
hard for anyone to predict how one's life will pan out every year for 30 
years. All it takes is one bad year, and there goes the house. People loose 
houses because they loose jobs.  People loose houses because most personal 
debt is secured by their house, and loosing the house is the easiest way to 
get rid of the other debt. People lose houses because they cant live within 
their mean in other areas of their life. Or because they set their sights to 
high. But the biggest reason people default, is because they develop a sense 
of satisfaction or entitlement in screwing their lender when they feel they 
were taken advantage of by their lendor. Even with Bankruptcy, there are 
some interesing stats, for example, almost all people that go bankrupt 
religiously paid their bills the many years prior to, and that they had an 
average interest increase of 80-100% the year they filed.  The borrower 
could have paid and wanted to pay, but whenthey felt there was no way out of 
getting screwed by the lender, they make a business decission.

Part of the problem was dishonest overstated appraisals, and greedy lenders 
approving loans at values higher than the homes should be worth. Sure there 
is a percentage of foreclosure that are legitimate cases where the homeowner 
can no longer afford to pay their mortgage. But many are conscience business 
decissions on their investment. Why do you think Obama decided to help 
Middle class save their homes, while they let the most needy loose their 
homes? A Interest rate savings canbe justified as a clear business decission 
that might influence the middle class home owner to want to keep their home, 
instead of purposely defaulting.

I will agree that the Government is not taking the right approach to solve 
the problems.  But they surely are not the cause of the problem.  Assisting 
Americans into HomeOwnership is one of the largest success stories for 
America. And government assistance (such as FHA loan) was one of the answers 
to when the private sector was not willing to solve the problem on their 
own.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

>> Brad Belton wrote:
>> Jack,
>>
>>
>>
>> Your police analogy is flawed.
>>
>>
>>
>> While it may take a larger police force to serve and insure the safety of 
>> a
>> larger population it does not take a larger government body with 
>> increased
>> invasion of those people's lives to govern effectively.  A larger 
>> population
>> requires no more or fewer laws than a small population as the laws are
>> applied to all regardless of the size of population.
>>
>>
>>
>> Agreed, the more people that "give up" and begin to simply depend on the
>> government to provide for them the worse our country (or any country)
>> becomes.  This is exactly what big government wants; the people to become
>> more dependent on them.  The more dependent the people become on big
>> government the more power they have over your life and the fewer freedoms
>> you enjoy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Why is it that so many small businesses exist?  They exist partly because
>> they can provide a better service/price than the "big guys".  Wireless
>> providers (other than those looking for a handout to keep their doors 
>> open)
>> exist because the ILECs created an opportunity that we identified and 
>> acted
>> upon.  Capitalism and the market works well as long as big government 
>> stays
>> out of it.  I don't know about the rest here, but the more the big 
>> Telco's
>> charge the better my business does!
>>
>>
>>
>> What does America have to show for all the ridiculous recent spending? 
>> GM
>> is still losing Billions of dollars, the big banks that were forced to 
>> take
>> TARP haven't changed and many have repaid TARP to get the government out 
>> of
>> their business.  Is it such a bad thing to own and operate a small 
>> business
>> with no long term debt?  Sure, it makes getting the company off the 
>> ground
>> that much harder, but it also creates a personal investment and 
>> commitment
>> by the proprietor beyond any cash infusion.
>>
>>
>>
>> Unemployment is nearing record highs as those (evil guys) that employ 
>> people
>> weather the storm of uncertainty.  People are losing their homes.many of
>> which never should have been afforded the privilege of home ownership if 
>> it
>> were not for big government forcing lenders to lend to unqualified 
>> buyers.
>>
>>
>>
>> I can go on, but I get the feeling none of this makes any sense to you,
>> Jack.  That's fine with me.there are those that do and those that.I don't
>> know.just coast along I guess?
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>>
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Jack Unger
>> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:55 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation 
>> of
>> net-neutrality
>>
>>
>>
>> Brad,
>>
>> You are misunderstanding or ignoring what I've been saying so let's try 
>> it
>> again.
>>
>> When you have more people crowded into the same space your are going to 
>> have
>> more frequent and more complex problems, including more fighting over the
>> available amount of resources. Like it or not, attempting to maintain 
>> order
>> is expected of government, be it large or small government. A two-person
>> police force is expected to be able to maintain order in a tiny community
>> and a 10,000 person police force is expected to be able to maintain order 
>> in
>> a large city. A two-person (small government) police force will not be 
>> able
>> to maintain order in New York or Los Angeles. "Socialism" (however that 
>> is
>> defined or mis-defined)  has nothing to do with this basic dynamic.
>>
>> America was built by hard-working people who thrived within the limited
>> government framework that the founding fathers provided. Unfortunately
>> today, 99% of the working people have lost or given up their power to 
>> govern
>> their own lives. That power now resides in the hands of large 
>> corporations
>> (banks, factory farms, seed companies, meat processors, insurance 
>> companies,
>> news networks, incumbent telecom companies, etc.). Government has
>> unfortunately become complicit in this dynamic. Today, big money
>> corporations control government by "buying off" politicians through large
>> campaign contributions. It doesn't matter if the politicians are 
>> Democrats
>> or Republicans. Our big-money political system has corrupted virtually 
>> all
>> of them.  Until we fix our broken political system by removing the
>> corrupting effect of big money, none of us will regain the freedoms that
>> were fought for and won by our ancestors.
>>
>> jack
>>
>>
>>
>> Brad Belton wrote:
>>
>> Jack,
>>
>> I completely disagree with the notion that America has to become smaller 
>> to
>> have a smaller less invasive government!  It is a socialist mentality to
>> think that only government can grow America or help Americans.
>>
>> America achieved its success by people utilizing their abilities to 
>> better
>> themselves and their lives free of an overly burdening government. 
>> America
>> was not built by grants, entitlements or anything big government can
>> possibly provide.  Instead our constitution provides a framework 
>> outlining
>> government limitations, so as to prevent government to ever be able to
>> control the people it governs.  The people of the republic govern not the
>> other way around.
>>
>> Countless Americans have given their lives to protect the very freedom 
>> big
>> government takes away.  Government run health care just happens to be the
>> straw that broke the camel's back and Americans are saying enough is 
>> enough
>> in overwhelming numbers.
>>
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Jack Unger
>> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 4:48 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation 
>> of
>> net-neutrality
>>
>> Brad,
>>
>> There is really only one way to get a smaller government without
>> throwing society into total disarray. That method is to have a smaller
>> country, in other words, a lower level of population. With an exploding
>> population there is just no way that I can see to get a smaller 
>> government.
>>
>> If only reclaiming our country for working people was as easy as voting
>> the incumbents out that would be GREAT but unfortunately it's not that
>> simple. Voting the incumbents out won't result in government doing a
>> better job for working people because the real influence is the
>> big-corporation money that finances the election campaigns for each new
>> crop of political nominees. The big-money lobbyists remain when each old
>> group of politicians is voted out so the big-money corporation's power
>> actually becomes greater and greater as time goes on.
>>
>> The solution that I propose is equal public financing for ALL political
>> campaigns. Each nominee (and incumbent) would receive an equal number of
>> taxpayer dollars to run their campaign. This will help ALL candidates
>> remember who they are supposed to be working for (working-class
>> taxpayers, not large corporations).
>>
>> As to regaining some influence for working people with regard to banks,
>> I'd recommend that everyone put their money in a local credit union or
>> small local community bank. My money has been kept in a local community
>> credit union for over 20 years and I feel good about it being there.
>> It's contributing to the community instead of being used in an
>> irresponsible fashion and/or used against the best interests of the
>> community.
>>
>> Best,
>>           jack
>>
>>
>> Brad Belton wrote:
>>
>>
>> The fundamental difference that Jack fails to recognize is if a bank (or
>> organization other than the government) does treat you unfairly you have
>> recourse.  If your own government treats you unfairly, you have little to
>>
>>
>> no
>>
>>
>> recourse.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, we can all only hope the majority of Americans will continue to 
>> stand
>> up and say no more to big government.  A smaller less intrusive 
>> government
>> is what America needs.  In order to achieve this we have to remove the
>> career politicians from office that have clearly lost touch with the
>>
>>
>> people
>>
>>
>> that elected them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Jack Unger
>> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:01 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation
>>
>>
>> of
>>
>>
>> net-neutrality
>>
>>
>>
>> So, now that government has been drowned, the huge banks, insurance
>> companies, telecoms can do whatever they want to you whenever they want 
>> to
>> do it.
>>
>> BWaaaah, haaa, haaaa, haaa, haaaaggggh....
>>
>>
>> Frank Crawford wrote:
>>
>> YES
>>
>> Jack Unger wrote:
>>
>>
>> I trust that government will be able to keep up just fine. Do you
>> support the alternative of making government so small that you can drown
>> it in a bathtub?
>>
>> Glenn Kelley wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Title II of the Communications Act-the section that regulates
>> telecommunications common carriers is now being considered by the FCC to
>> oversee broadband.  FCC Commissioner Robert M. McDowell during a talk he
>> gave to the Free State Foundation asked:  (see First Do No Harm: A
>>
>>
>> broadband
>>
>>
>> plan for Amercia)
>> "Exactly what kind of companies might get tangled up into this regulatory
>> Rubik's Cube?.Any Internet company that offers a voice application?" .
>>
>>
>> "With
>>
>>
>> this newfound authority, why stop at voice apps? Isn't voice just another
>> type of data app? As the distinction between network operators and
>> application providers continues to blur at an eye-popping rate, how will
>>
>>
>> the
>>
>>
>> government be able to keep up?"
>>
>>
>> Much more on the blog:   www.HostMedic.com -->
>>
>>
>>
>> ____________________________________________________________________________
>>
>>
>> _________
>> Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com
>>   Email: [email protected]
>> Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to.
>>
>>
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