Good point Jeff ! :) Jeff Broadwick wrote: > Wow Jack! > > "99% of the working people have lost or given up their power to govern their > own lives." > > I believe that there are a small percent of people who knowingly or > unknowingly have turned their lives over to someone else, but to say that it > is 99% is just wrong. > > Jeff > > > Regards, > > Jeff > > > Jeff Broadwick > ImageStream > 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) > +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Jack Unger > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 8:56 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of > net-neutrality > > > Brad, > > You are misunderstanding or ignoring what I've been saying so let's try it > again. > > When you have more people crowded into the same space your are going to have > more frequent and more complex problems, including more fighting over the > available amount of resources. Like it or not, attempting to maintain order > is expected of government, be it large or small government. A two-person > police force is expected to be able to maintain order in a tiny community > and a 10,000 person police force is expected to be able to maintain order in > a large city. A two-person (small government) police force will not be able > to maintain order in New York or Los Angeles. "Socialism" (however that is > defined or mis-defined) has nothing to do with this basic dynamic. > > America was built by hard-working people who thrived within the limited > government framework that the founding fathers provided. Unfortunately > today, 99% of the working people have lost or given up their power to govern > their own lives. That power now resides in the hands of large corporations > (banks, factory farms, seed companies, meat processors, insurance companies, > news networks, incumbent telecom companies, etc.). Government has > unfortunately become complicit in this dynamic. Today, big money > corporations control government by "buying off" politicians through large > campaign contributions. It doesn't matter if the politicians are Democrats > or Republicans. Our big-money political system has corrupted virtually all > of them. Until we fix our broken political system by removing the > corrupting effect of big money, none of us will regain the freedoms that > were fought for and won by our ancestors. > > jack > > > > Brad Belton wrote: > > Jack, > > I completely disagree with the notion that America has to become > smaller to > have a smaller less invasive government! It is a socialist > mentality to > think that only government can grow America or help Americans. > > America achieved its success by people utilizing their abilities to > better > themselves and their lives free of an overly burdening government. > America > was not built by grants, entitlements or anything big government can > possibly provide. Instead our constitution provides a framework > outlining > government limitations, so as to prevent government to ever be able > to > control the people it governs. The people of the republic govern > not the > other way around. > > Countless Americans have given their lives to protect the very > freedom big > government takes away. Government run health care just happens to > be the > straw that broke the camel's back and Americans are saying enough is > enough > in overwhelming numbers. > > > Brad > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > Behalf Of Jack Unger > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 4:48 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in > regulation of > net-neutrality > > Brad, > > There is really only one way to get a smaller government without > throwing society into total disarray. That method is to have a > smaller > country, in other words, a lower level of population. With an > exploding > population there is just no way that I can see to get a smaller > government. > > If only reclaiming our country for working people was as easy as > voting > the incumbents out that would be GREAT but unfortunately it's not > that > simple. Voting the incumbents out won't result in government doing a > > better job for working people because the real influence is the > big-corporation money that finances the election campaigns for each > new > crop of political nominees. The big-money lobbyists remain when each > old > group of politicians is voted out so the big-money corporation's > power > actually becomes greater and greater as time goes on. > > The solution that I propose is equal public financing for ALL > political > campaigns. Each nominee (and incumbent) would receive an equal > number of > taxpayer dollars to run their campaign. This will help ALL > candidates > remember who they are supposed to be working for (working-class > taxpayers, not large corporations). > > As to regaining some influence for working people with regard to > banks, > I'd recommend that everyone put their money in a local credit union > or > small local community bank. My money has been kept in a local > community > credit union for over 20 years and I feel good about it being there. > > It's contributing to the community instead of being used in an > irresponsible fashion and/or used against the best interests of the > community. > > Best, > jack > > > Brad Belton wrote: > > > The fundamental difference that Jack fails to recognize is > if a bank (or > organization other than the government) does treat you > unfairly you have > recourse. If your own government treats you unfairly, you > have little to > > > no > > > recourse. > > > > Yes, we can all only hope the majority of Americans will > continue to stand > up and say no more to big government. A smaller less > intrusive government > is what America needs. In order to achieve this we have to > remove the > career politicians from office that have clearly lost touch > with the > > > people > > > that elected them. > > > > Brad > > > > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org > [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Jack Unger > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:01 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role > in regulation > > > of > > > net-neutrality > > > > So, now that government has been drowned, the huge banks, > insurance > companies, telecoms can do whatever they want to you > whenever they want to > do it. > > BWaaaah, haaa, haaaa, haaa, haaaaggggh.... > > > Frank Crawford wrote: > > YES > > Jack Unger wrote: > > > I trust that government will be able to keep up just fine. > Do you > support the alternative of making government so small that > you can drown > it in a bathtub? > > Glenn Kelley wrote: > > > > Title II of the Communications Act-the section that > regulates > telecommunications common carriers is now being considered > by the FCC to > oversee broadband. FCC Commissioner Robert M. McDowell > during a talk he > gave to the Free State Foundation asked: (see First Do No > Harm: A > > > broadband > > > plan for Amercia) > "Exactly what kind of companies might get tangled up into > this regulatory > Rubik's Cube?.Any Internet company that offers a voice > application?" . > > > "With > > > this newfound authority, why stop at voice apps? Isn't voice > just another > type of data app? As the distinction between network > operators and > application providers continues to blur at an eye-popping > rate, how will > > > the > > > government be able to keep up?" > > > Much more on the blog: www.HostMedic.com --> > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > > > _________ > Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com > Email: gl...@hostmedic.com > Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ---- > WISPA Wants You! 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