Well yes, AT&T, Sprint, Qwest, and Verizon have fiber almost everywhere. That doesn't mean they'll sell you a service that you can cost effectively use.
It's too bad the feds didn't require cooperation with all area ISPs in each application done by a public entity. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Chuck Bartosch" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 3:00 PM To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL > I think largely the middle mile funds are wasted. Most areas already have > at least *some* fiber. The cost, and the problem, is in getting last mile > done, not middle mile done. From my direct experience and observation, a > lot of the middle mile projects NTIA is funding is really for redundant > fiber. Where it isn't redundant it isn't really providing functionality > that would help last mile access in the projects I've looked at. Worse, > the middle mile projects are NOT being designed intimately with last mile > providers. They are going to "key community institutions" which (1) mostly > already have fiber connections and (2) really have no impact on where > service is needed for last mile access. > > Chuck > > On Mar 16, 2010, at 1:40 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote: > >> This is why I have said that the stimulus dollars need to go to middle >> milte build outs. Wireless as a last mile medium is very well understood >> and gives best bang for the buck in a lot of scenarios. >> >> Justin Wilson wrote: >>> I think part of the issue is economies of scale. Many rural ISPs >>> have >>> T1s and T3s at best. The cost of transport and bandwidth doesn¹t allow >>> them >>> to scale as well as they could if they had fiber or some other high >>> capacity >>> transport. With providers such as Cogent well under $10 a meg in bulk >>> you >>> can afford to up the speed (providing your network can support it) if >>> you >>> have access to such things. >>> >>> I have seen several providers start offering better speeds once they >>> had >>> access to a bigger pipe. I know in my area a T1 is still around $450 a >>> month. Get 4 bonded t1s and you are looking at $300 a meg. If you had >>> access to fiber and your transport + bandwidth cost you say $75 a meg >>> you >>> could afford to up the subscriber speeds. >>> >>> Just my thoughts. >>> >>> Justin >>> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -------------- > Chuck Bartosch > Clarity Connect, Inc. > 200 Pleasant Grove Road > Ithaca, NY 14850 > (607) 257-8268 > > "When the stars threw down their spears, > and water'd heaven with their tears, > Did He smile, His work to see? > Did He who made the Lamb make thee?" > >>From William Blake's Tiger!, Tiger! > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
