Extra limb alert.

Josh Luthman
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continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Tom Sharples <tsharp...@qorvus.com> wrote:
> Looks like their products are still available. Here's my favorite:
>
> http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=22131
>
> Can you imagine running that kind of power - indoors??
>
> Tom S.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <o...@odessaoffice.com>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>
>
>> lol
>>
>> Yeah, it sucks.  Really the vendors that sell those configs are the ones
>> that we should all avoid like the plague.  Then BOTH companies would go
>> away
>> sooner than later.
>>
>> Anyone remember Hyperlink?  They loved to sell those 1 watt amps with 15dB
>> omni antennas.  Those guys put more operators out of business than there
>> are
>> in business today.  It's a shame.
>>
>> But hey, that's what these lists are for.  ASK QUESTIONS!!!!!  Don't know
>> about everyone else here but I'd rather answer the same question twice a
>> week than see a company fail due to bad advice.
>>
>> marlon
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <k...@wavelinc.com>
>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>
>>
>>> Marlon,
>>>
>>> I think people should have to take a test in order to be a WISP.
>>> Otherwise
>>> you got all these pop-up idiots that know nothing about RF and setting up
>>> 20db sectors with XR2's set at default power levels. This is well over
>>> 50watts EIRP.
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>> WAVELINC
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>> 419-562-6405
>>> www.wavelinc.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:51 AM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>>
>>> I get what you are saying Bob.  But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO
>>> to
>>>
>>> call.
>>>
>>> I just had a guy call with a similar problem.  You all know him and I'd
>>> drop
>>>
>>> his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator.....
>>>
>>> When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place.  They told
>>> him
>>> that there was nothing they could do.
>>>
>>> I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT
>>> the
>>> consumer complaint folks.
>>>
>>> He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that showed,
>>> clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his.  When the
>>> good
>>>
>>> guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days.  He was also
>>> able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the
>>> complaint.
>>>
>>> This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last I'd
>>> heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint.  Perhaps it's far
>>> enough
>>> along that the good guy can tell you a bit more.
>>>
>>> 1-800-call-fcc  Ask for ENFORCEMENT.  You need to have your documentation
>>> in
>>>
>>> order first.
>>>
>>> It's true that we all have to accept interference.  It's also true that
>>> we
>>> can't CAUSE it maliciously.  They also have a hissy fit when we go over
>>> the
>>> allowable power levels.
>>>
>>> For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well
>>> below,
>>> legal levels.  They tend to work better that way anyhow.  Use bigger
>>> antennas not more power.  Range and reliability is about SNR.  You can
>>> get
>>> that in two ways.  More power is one.  Better ears is another.  Better
>>> ears
>>> also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which also
>>> means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's which
>>> means less interference etc. etc. etc.
>>>
>>> laters,
>>> marlon
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Lakeland" <lakel...@gbcx.net>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>>
>>>
>>>> Marlon,
>>>>
>>>> You have personal contacts. That's cheating.  I have contacts too and
>>>> could
>>>> probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp
>>>> calling
>>>> the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field office
>>>> you
>>>> usually only get the recorded TV interference message.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I'm just totally wrong.
>>>>
>>>> -B-
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marlon K. Schafer writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Hmmmm, I've had much better luck that than Bob.
>>>>>
>>>>> marlon
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Lakeland" <lakel...@gbcx.net>
>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:16 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry  I side with Travis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have quite a few experiences with Enforcement Bureau out of NY,
>>>>>> Philly
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> DC and I know with the tremendous reduction of their budget and
>>>>>> workforce
>>>>>> they are having enough issues just trying to do FM/AM/TV inspections
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> they are required by law to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no manpower for chasing down unlicensed operations unless
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> causing interference to a licensed operation like weather radar or
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> other priority service. Forget pursuing an interference complaint
>>>>>> between
>>>>>> two Part 15 issues especially if any travel is involved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thats the reality of the matter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -B-
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jerry Richardson writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gotta keep bringing it up. eventually they will respond. Squeaky
>>>>>>> wheel
>>>>>>> gets the grease.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ideally a host of documentation including letters to the offending
>>>>>>> ISP,
>>>>>>> previous reports to the FCC, etc will build the case.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gotta prove that they are operating over 36dB and that they are
>>>>>>> affecting
>>>>>>> other legitimate users of the band.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 2:38 PM
>>>>>>> To: wa4...@arrl.net; WISPA General List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Negative. I know of an ISP using 5 watt amps on 2.4ghz omni antennas.
>>>>>>> They have been reported several times to the FCC, and nothing
>>>>>>> happens.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Travis
>>>>>>> Microserv
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leon D. Zetekoff wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 03/27/2010 03:58 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regarding the competetor, if you can prove that your competetor is
>>>>>>>>> intentionally interfering with you, the FCC will actually get
>>>>>>>>> involved
>>>>>>>>> but it will take a long and painful paper-trail to build a strong
>>>>>>>>> enough case.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> if they are using amps, then the FCC would get involved.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> leon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob Moldashel
>>>>>> Lakeland Communications, Inc.
>>>>>> 1350 Lincoln Avenue
>>>>>> Holbrook, NY 11741
>>>>>> 800-479-9195
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>>>> Bob Moldashel
>>>> Lakeland Communications, Inc.
>>>> 1350 Lincoln Avenue
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