Bob, I fully agree with your point. FCC enforcement is not the best method for promptly curing illegal interference that is harming one's operations. The process does not move fast enough for that. I know if I have not resolved such interference within the day, I've lost the subscribers. There is always a better approach, whether it be to rebuild one's own equipment/network to work around it, negotiate directly with other party, cause reciprocal harm until they play nice, or have attorney send letter.
FCC enforcement only occurs at a time table acceptable to penalize those that abuse and ignore the regulations. It was mentioned recently by WISPA's attorney (Steve), that the FCC's authority is only to shut down abusers and fine abusers. There are no mechanisms or legal authority for compensating those that have been interferred with. If illegal interference occurs to the level that rebuilding one's own radio solution can not help, and the time involved in engaging the FCC is needed, I'd argue that it is likely a situation where the one being interfered with is at risk of incurring enough significant harm, that it may be wise to document the violation legally anyways. Thus, might be worth sending the attorney letter. You'd atleast then be able to prove if the violator agreed or refused to cooperate and take corrective action. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lakeland" <[email protected]> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! >I agree with WHO. But you are talking MONTHS and not even sure if >anything > has been done. How many people out here can wait MONTHS for a cure to > their > issue? And its unknown if there even was or will be any enforcement > action. > > If I make a complaint to enforcement regarding a licensed interference > issue > they are on that within 24 hours. If I tell them who and where and/or its > a > public safety issue they will usually respond within hours. > > But you're saying MONTHS with all the right info. > > I don't know. Still sounds like what I said..... > > :-) > > -B- > > > > > > > Marlon K. Schafer writes: > >> I get what you are saying Bob. But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO >> to >> call. >> >> I just had a guy call with a similar problem. You all know him and I'd >> drop >> his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator..... >> >> When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place. They told >> him >> that there was nothing they could do. >> >> I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT >> the >> consumer complaint folks. >> >> He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that showed, >> clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his. When the >> good >> guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days. He was also >> able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the >> complaint. >> >> This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last I'd >> heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint. Perhaps it's far >> enough >> along that the good guy can tell you a bit more. >> >> 1-800-call-fcc Ask for ENFORCEMENT. You need to have your documentation >> in >> order first. >> >> It's true that we all have to accept interference. It's also true that >> we >> can't CAUSE it maliciously. They also have a hissy fit when we go over >> the >> allowable power levels. >> >> For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well >> below, >> legal levels. They tend to work better that way anyhow. Use bigger >> antennas not more power. Range and reliability is about SNR. You can >> get >> that in two ways. More power is one. Better ears is another. Better >> ears >> also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which also >> means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's which >> means less interference etc. etc. etc. >> >> laters, >> marlon >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lakeland" <[email protected]> >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! >> >> >>> Marlon, >>> >>> You have personal contacts. That's cheating. I have contacts too and >>> could >>> probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp >>> calling >>> the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field office >>> you >>> usually only get the recorded TV interference message. >>> >>> Maybe I'm just totally wrong. >>> >>> -B- >>> >>> >>> >>> Marlon K. Schafer writes: >>> >>>> Hmmmm, I've had much better luck that than Bob. >>>> >>>> marlon >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Lakeland" <[email protected]> >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:16 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! >>>> >>>> >>>>> Sorry I side with Travis. >>>>> >>>>> I have quite a few experiences with Enforcement Bureau out of NY, >>>>> Philly >>>>> and >>>>> DC and I know with the tremendous reduction of their budget and >>>>> workforce >>>>> they are having enough issues just trying to do FM/AM/TV inspections >>>>> that >>>>> they are required by law to do. >>>>> >>>>> There is no manpower for chasing down unlicensed operations unless >>>>> they >>>>> are >>>>> causing interference to a licensed operation like weather radar or >>>>> some >>>>> other priority service. Forget pursuing an interference complaint >>>>> between >>>>> two Part 15 issues especially if any travel is involved. >>>>> >>>>> Thats the reality of the matter. >>>>> >>>>> -B- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jerry Richardson writes: >>>>> >>>>>> Gotta keep bringing it up. eventually they will respond. Squeaky >>>>>> wheel >>>>>> gets the grease. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ideally a host of documentation including letters to the offending >>>>>> ISP, >>>>>> previous reports to the FCC, etc will build the case. >>>>>> >>>>>> Gotta prove that they are operating over 36dB and that they are >>>>>> affecting >>>>>> other legitimate users of the band. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> On >>>>>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 2:38 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected]; WISPA General List >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! >>>>>> >>>>>> Negative. I know of an ISP using 5 watt amps on 2.4ghz omni antennas. >>>>>> They have been reported several times to the FCC, and nothing >>>>>> happens. >>>>>> >>>>>> Travis >>>>>> Microserv >>>>>> >>>>>> Leon D. Zetekoff wrote: >>>>>>> On 03/27/2010 03:58 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regarding the competetor, if you can prove that your competetor is >>>>>>>> intentionally interfering with you, the FCC will actually get >>>>>>>> involved >>>>>>>> but it will take a long and painful paper-trail to build a strong >>>>>>>> enough case. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> if they are using amps, then the FCC would get involved. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> leon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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