Tom,

Could you give us a hint how we would find this info?

Randy

> It might be a good idea for WISPs to look up their Whitechannel availabilty
> in their areas, and determine if VHF channels 1-7 are available in their
> territory or not.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL&  Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Scrivner"<[email protected]>
> To: "WISPA General List"<[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 10:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
>
>
>    
>> I am not sure where you get your assumptions but they are not correct.
>> Every
>> television channel has available 6 MHz of bandwidth and can be modulated
>> with the same amount of data regardless of where the channel resides in
>> the
>> VHF or UHF frequency bands. The limiting factor for these lowest VHF
>> channels is the overall higher noise level which is certainly an issue but
>> not a deal killer for us. I am guessing that our use of the lowest VHF
>> channels would require more forward error correction to provide high
>> quality
>> service. In my opinion this is a minor annoyance to be able to have
>> coverage
>> to 100% of my potential customer base.
>> John Scrivner
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Steve Barnes<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> Mike, though I agree that circular polarization could work.  What channel
>>> width are you going to need to have a usable system.  I mean in the VHF
>>> band
>>> of 54 Mhz to 88 Mhz the frequency is to slow to have any ability to clock
>>> the data through at any worth wile speed. We are supposed to be giving
>>> customers more bandwidth and faster service.  Yes it would cut through
>>> trees
>>> and I would love it.  But at 2-3X dialup speed?
>>>
>>> The upper bands are definitely better but then you lower your penetration
>>> (>800 Mhz).
>>>
>>> Someone enlighten me here.
>>>
>>> Steve Barnes
>>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>> Behalf Of Mike
>>> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:24 AM
>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
>>>
>>> Awesome report!  Thanks.
>>> Give me equipment capable of 20 watts, circularly polarized sectors, a
>>> turnstile antenna on the CPE, and it would be a perfect fit for THIS
>>> rural
>>> market.  At that power level, and circular polarization, I could reuse
>>> any
>>> channel on the same tower using opposite circular sense.  I know some of
>>> the
>>> discussion in the past on this list led some to believe an antenna would
>>> look like a big TV log periodic, but it just isn't so.  A TV antenna is
>>> by
>>> necessity a broadband device, and as such is BIG to handle a RANGE of
>>> frequencies.  A turnstile or other narrow band antenna could be built to
>>> blend with the aesthetics of a home or business.  Heck, if this comes to
>>> pass, I may go into the antenna building business just for this usage.
>>>
>>> Friendly Regards,
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Mike Gilchrist
>>> Disruptive Technologist
>>> Advanced Wireless Express
>>> P.O. Box 255
>>> Toledo, IA   52342
>>> 239.770.6203
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>> Behalf Of Steve Barnes
>>> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:41 AM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
>>>
>>> This is a great report good job guys and thank you.
>>>
>>> Next question.  I don't know any of the team personally just from your
>>> posts.  The picture in the report, can you give us a who's who left to
>>> right.
>>>
>>> Steve Barnes
>>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>> Behalf Of Jack Unger
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 7:17 PM
>>> To: [email protected]; WISPA General List
>>> Subject: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
>>>
>>> Last Wednesday, March 31, the WISPA FCC Committee assisted by the WISPA
>>> Promotions Committee met with top managers of the FCC Office of
>>> Engineering
>>> and Technology (OET) at FCC Headquarters in Washington D.C.
>>> to discuss the status of WISPA's TV Whitespaces filings.
>>>
>>> The following Members represented WISPA. Ryan Spott, Alex Phillips, John
>>> Scriver, and Jack Unger. The WISPA Team was assisted by Steve Coran of
>>> Rini/Coran LLC in Washington.
>>>
>>> All Team Members made valuable contributions to the effort and we all
>>> feel
>>> that the meeting went well. Our goal was to ask the FCC take favorable
>>> action soon on WISPA's Petitions to adjust the TV Whitespace rules by
>>> making
>>> corrections to several problem areas, thereby making WISP use of the
>>> Whitespaces more practical and more successful.
>>>
>>> I'm attaching a more detailed report (.doc file) and also the official
>>> written filing (PDF) that WISPA is required to make after every meeting
>>> with
>>> the FCC. A copy of our FCC PowerPoint presentation is also required to be
>>> part of our written filing. To easily view our presentation, please
>>> rotate
>>> the attached PDF clockwise 90 degrees in your Adobe Reader viewer.
>>>
>>> Your questions and constructive suggestions are always welcome.
>>>
>>> Respectfully Submitted,
>>>
>>> Jack Unger
>>> WISPA FCC Committee Chair
>>> 818-227-4220
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
>>> Network Design - Technical Training - Technical Writing Serving the
>>> Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993
>>> www.ask-wi.com  818-227-4220  [email protected]
>>>
>>>
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