I probably wont get to it today, but I'll find the google earth overlay that I had that showed it, and post it to the list shortly.
Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Cosby" <[email protected]> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC > Tom, > > Could you give us a hint how we would find this info? > > Randy > >> It might be a good idea for WISPs to look up their Whitechannel >> availabilty >> in their areas, and determine if VHF channels 1-7 are available in their >> territory or not. >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL& Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Scrivner"<[email protected]> >> To: "WISPA General List"<[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 10:16 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC >> >> >> >>> I am not sure where you get your assumptions but they are not correct. >>> Every >>> television channel has available 6 MHz of bandwidth and can be modulated >>> with the same amount of data regardless of where the channel resides in >>> the >>> VHF or UHF frequency bands. The limiting factor for these lowest VHF >>> channels is the overall higher noise level which is certainly an issue >>> but >>> not a deal killer for us. I am guessing that our use of the lowest VHF >>> channels would require more forward error correction to provide high >>> quality >>> service. In my opinion this is a minor annoyance to be able to have >>> coverage >>> to 100% of my potential customer base. >>> John Scrivner >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Steve Barnes<[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Mike, though I agree that circular polarization could work. What >>>> channel >>>> width are you going to need to have a usable system. I mean in the VHF >>>> band >>>> of 54 Mhz to 88 Mhz the frequency is to slow to have any ability to >>>> clock >>>> the data through at any worth wile speed. We are supposed to be giving >>>> customers more bandwidth and faster service. Yes it would cut through >>>> trees >>>> and I would love it. But at 2-3X dialup speed? >>>> >>>> The upper bands are definitely better but then you lower your >>>> penetration >>>> (>800 Mhz). >>>> >>>> Someone enlighten me here. >>>> >>>> Steve Barnes >>>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf Of Mike >>>> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:24 AM >>>> To: 'WISPA General List' >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC >>>> >>>> Awesome report! Thanks. >>>> Give me equipment capable of 20 watts, circularly polarized sectors, a >>>> turnstile antenna on the CPE, and it would be a perfect fit for THIS >>>> rural >>>> market. At that power level, and circular polarization, I could reuse >>>> any >>>> channel on the same tower using opposite circular sense. I know some >>>> of >>>> the >>>> discussion in the past on this list led some to believe an antenna >>>> would >>>> look like a big TV log periodic, but it just isn't so. A TV antenna is >>>> by >>>> necessity a broadband device, and as such is BIG to handle a RANGE of >>>> frequencies. A turnstile or other narrow band antenna could be built >>>> to >>>> blend with the aesthetics of a home or business. Heck, if this comes >>>> to >>>> pass, I may go into the antenna building business just for this usage. >>>> >>>> Friendly Regards, >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> Mike Gilchrist >>>> Disruptive Technologist >>>> Advanced Wireless Express >>>> P.O. Box 255 >>>> Toledo, IA 52342 >>>> 239.770.6203 >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf Of Steve Barnes >>>> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:41 AM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC >>>> >>>> This is a great report good job guys and thank you. >>>> >>>> Next question. I don't know any of the team personally just from your >>>> posts. The picture in the report, can you give us a who's who left to >>>> right. >>>> >>>> Steve Barnes >>>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf Of Jack Unger >>>> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 7:17 PM >>>> To: [email protected]; WISPA General List >>>> Subject: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC >>>> >>>> Last Wednesday, March 31, the WISPA FCC Committee assisted by the WISPA >>>> Promotions Committee met with top managers of the FCC Office of >>>> Engineering >>>> and Technology (OET) at FCC Headquarters in Washington D.C. >>>> to discuss the status of WISPA's TV Whitespaces filings. >>>> >>>> The following Members represented WISPA. Ryan Spott, Alex Phillips, >>>> John >>>> Scriver, and Jack Unger. The WISPA Team was assisted by Steve Coran of >>>> Rini/Coran LLC in Washington. >>>> >>>> All Team Members made valuable contributions to the effort and we all >>>> feel >>>> that the meeting went well. Our goal was to ask the FCC take favorable >>>> action soon on WISPA's Petitions to adjust the TV Whitespace rules by >>>> making >>>> corrections to several problem areas, thereby making WISP use of the >>>> Whitespaces more practical and more successful. >>>> >>>> I'm attaching a more detailed report (.doc file) and also the official >>>> written filing (PDF) that WISPA is required to make after every meeting >>>> with >>>> the FCC. A copy of our FCC PowerPoint presentation is also required to >>>> be >>>> part of our written filing. To easily view our presentation, please >>>> rotate >>>> the attached PDF clockwise 90 degrees in your Adobe Reader viewer. >>>> >>>> Your questions and constructive suggestions are always welcome. >>>> >>>> Respectfully Submitted, >>>> >>>> Jack Unger >>>> WISPA FCC Committee Chair >>>> 818-227-4220 >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. >>>> Network Design - Technical Training - Technical Writing Serving the >>>> Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 >>>> www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ---- >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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