YES!  I've told many, many people......  If you want to keep your kids safe,
no laptops, desktops that can't be lugged around and keep them all in a
central, common area in the home.  We have a computer repair business so we
see everything.  And I mean EVERYTHING!  What is the number one favorite
activity of 13, 14, 15+ year old girls who get that digital camera for their
birthday?  Hundreds of pictures of themselves in the mirror and some with
not much or nothing on.  Add that to the "My Space pictures folder full of
penis shots sent to them.  I gave a laptop to a friend's daughter for
school.  What do I find?  This 15 year old girl had amassed hundreds of nude
pics of military men in Iraq and Afghanistan.  She had become some sort of
"Pin Up girl" for them, they were trading pics and chatting.  

Sigh...........    So she told the girl, at my suggestion, that I put
"Mirror Track" software on the laptop to send me logs of everything.  HA!
No more problems with that now, she probably moved her activities to another
machine someplace.  

Nothing you can do when they are motivated.



-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 8:51 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids

We use Bluecoat K9 and are very happy with it so far.

My 14 and 13 year olds have Facebook accounts...under the condition that my
wife and I are friended and have their passwords so that we can log in as
them at any time.

I found out that my son had a Google mail account a while back that he did
not ask us for.  We killed it.

We have one home computer.  It is a laptop and it stays in the main living
areas.

So far, I'm way ahead of the kids on technology and they know it.  They
believe that we can track anything they can do (and we can...to a point).
We check up enough so that they know we are watching.

I don't think that there is a perfect solution.  If the kids are bound and
determined to get to something they will do it.  

I tell kids that, before they hit "send", they should think about what their
post/text/email would look like on the front page of the NY Times (back when
people read it!) above the fold.  I've seen posts from my kids friend's on
Facebook that make me cringe.   


Regards,

Jeff


Jeff Broadwick
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-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 8:29 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids

Marlon, this is a topic that I speak on in local churches, Kiwanis, and
such.  There are free apps like getk9.com that is completely free and locks
down a PC's browsing. Then you can use user account controls in windows
vista and Win7 to keep them from over-ridding your settings.  But none of
them protect Zunes, iPad, PSP's.  You will need a account with OpenDNS and
install that on your home routers DNS config to make it work right.  There
are ways you can bypass this for your use.  But knowing the teacher you are
on this list, I expect your son knows his way around network settings.  As
the old sayings go where there is a will there is a way. 

I am considering setting up a OpenDNS Router and making it a option for my
clients.  Routing all their traffic through it at their CPE.

Steve Barnes
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service

-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 1:50 AM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: sp-...@sp-ceo.com
Subject: [WISPA] how to protect your kids

Hi All,

Here's the scenario.  My kids are expressly forbidden from having email
addresses outside my domain.  They are forbidden from having myspace,
facebook etc. sites.

If they want an email, fine by me, but it's one that *I* can check on.

If they want a web site, fine by me, but make it a real one that *I* can
delete things from.

I'm trying to teach them to NOT do or say things on the internet that might
bite them in the butt later.  The days of people eventually forgetting the
stupidity of youth or passion are long gone.

Anyway, my 13 year old has a myspace account.  He used a hotmail email
address to get it.  He had permission to use neither of them.  I finally
found out about the myspace account and went in to check out what he'd been
saying.  His trash and sent messages had both been erased between when I got
the password out of him and when I had time to check on it.  (I didn't know
that his zune, a video player!!!! would ALSO allow him to get on the net and
work on his page, talk to his friends etc.  deep sigh)

So, I contacted myspace, using his account, and asked for all of the deleted
information.  I explained that I was the father of a minor and that he had
no permission to use their site and I wanted to know what was being hidden
from me.  I gave my full name AND phone number as well as my email address.

They were very good about contacting me quickly about this issue.  However
they flatly refused to provide me with any information!!!!!  They had NO
proof of age etc. on the account.  Nothing to verify that the child was over
18 etc.  And *I* as the PARENT am prevented from accessing the account
information!  "go get it from your teen" is basically what I was told.

WTF is this???????  Absolutly amazing.

So, what do the rest of you do to try to protect or control your kids these
days?

thanks
marlon



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